I can’t agree more. For all we know, Faber wants us to have hope and support him. If we just dismiss his project as being just another hopeless attempt the reboot the franchise, of course it will be hopeless. But if we hope, and support Faber and his project, who knows? Maybe something will come out of it.
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Me: I don’t think it’ll amount to anything beyond an art release, perhaps some concepts from the previous gens and maybe even a fe-
Faber: “Ignition”
Me, doing the crab rave: G3 confrimed
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Guys, look at the location on these posts. Faber’s just saying he’s on “Planet Earth.” This is more evidence that 3IO is taking place on a cosmic scale; these pods–not canisters, but pods, as Faber said–are possibly inside comets and may land on different planets at first. The allusions to “evolution” may mean the Toa are going to take on attributes of the native species of the planets they arrive on.
The reference to the Ignition arc might indicate that these will actually be the Toa Inika/Mahri and not the Mata/Nuva, or it might reference other plot points from that era.
Stop saying things with no basis in fact, Lego’s even said they’d like to bring it back in the future, they just haven’t confirmed to have hard plans. They did say on Twitter that G2 even sold about average–not bad, average. That means the line can be popular again if the worst iteration of it we’ve gotten so far wasn’t even a true failure.
I have a better idea: you stop being a killjoy and let people have their fun, and we will go on as we are. Something is obviously happening, so there’s something to be excited for, if only a little. Let’s just do as Faber asks and let him know we have his support.
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Just… holy gadunka, that sounds freaking awesome. It just shows how much potential the franchise has with just some minor twisting around of elements, no pun intended.
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When did they say that?
This has always kinda been a mysterious case… When G2 ended, they actually said it sold well. What well means to them as a company I have no idea, but if it sold well, or even average, there is no reason why they should have canceled the already planned third wave. So what truly happened, kinda remains a mystery.
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I can’t remember where it was for the life of me, I know it was in an interview about the art design of G2 and I initially found it on Tumblr. I think I made a BZPower thread on the matter, so I may look there, but I got no idea what it was called, so until I find it, I got nothing, sadly.
It’s no mystery, it’s the effective cost. If Lego allocates resources into a line that’s only doing average, as G2 was, when they could be funding something that’s more profitable, then that’s effectively a loss for them. G2 was pulled for the same reason G1 was–they were both doing average, and Lego wanted to cut their losses and keep the line from becoming unsalvageable.
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Yes, please.
I think this is one of the most hopeful things for Bionicle, the idea that it isn’t beyond saving.
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The thing is, they should have released the third wave no matter what, since this is their current policy. All their new in-house themes are planned for a initial three year run, if they do well enough, the length will be extended further, if they do normally, they will end in the third year. That was the case with Chima and Nexo Knights, and it should have been the case with G2 too, unless, of course, the sets sold terribly. As much as nothing is confirmed yet, this is the theory that is generally accepted in the LEGO community.
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Well, if LEGO wants Bionicle to potentially (as in ever) come back for a third time, and the sets aren’t selling above average, the ideal thing is to halt the progress to keep demand up.
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This feels like you’re just trying to be edgy.
It’s fine that you believe that BIONICLE isn’t coming back, but that doesn’t mean we all have subscribe to that philosophy. Just keep an open mind about it.
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So you’re saying Lego just straight-up lied? It’s not inconceivable, but without any concrete evidence to prove that poor sales are why G2 was cancelled when there is evidence to the contrary, you’re really just speculating.
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‘Average’ is not good! It was cancelled early! Of course they aren’t going to say it sold well because it lasted shorter than the plan, but Lego can’t say it sold badly! And ‘no concrete evidence’? Like I said, it was planned for THREE YEARS!
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It’s not bad either.
To keep it from becoming less than average.
”You either die an appreciated LEGO theme or live long enough to see yourself become hated.”
Why not? The theme’s over, none of the sets are on shelves, it’s not like they’ll lose money by saying they didn’t make a whole lot of money.
But there are many, many reasons to cancel something besides sales. G1 was still selling fairly well before it was canceled.
In the end, this is truly just a battle between pessimism, healthy skepticism, hopefulness, and unrealistic expectations.
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It’s also not abysmal, either. In fact, it’s how G1 ended.
And we can only guess as to why until more evidence comes up, because we have nothing to go on except Lego’s official statement.
And they didn’t, they said it sold average. They could have just said nothing, like they normally do. It might have simply been on a downward trend, or even just not growing in popularity like they wanted it to.
Prove me wrong by providing some.
And there are probably countless potential reasons why it didn’t, any of which could have been the ultimate cause. Again, there’s really no proof that Lego lied about Bionicle’s sales, so there’s only speculation; and based on history, Lego was just trying to keep the line viable for the future.
You act like Bionicle is dead forever when your only justification for thinking that is that G2 was cut short. Promoting that mentality will only reduce the chances that it comes back with the right team behind it who’s going to use their hindsight to make a really good reboot. You’re basically doing the antithesis of what Faber’s doing, which is counterintuitive to this thread’s topic.
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I’m hopeful that we at least get web novels with those wonderful Faber art concepts. That’d be really neat!
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So what you are saying is that LEGO cut short G2 just so it doesn’t lose sales? I dunno if that is the case or not, but believing that LEGO lied when they said it sold “average” was what the community believed ever since it’s cancellation. So yeah, comming up with new theories now, when people have already established in their mind that G2 was a disaster as a fact, it’s kinda hard to convince them otherwise.
That is why so many people here are so skeptical about Faber’s project, and don’t really want to support him. Heck, even Eljay doesn’t think this project will succeed for the same reason.
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That’s the best thing to hope for. I’d be 100% down with web novels.
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I’d love a story-driven line instead of a toyline, honestly. BIONICLE would be able to flourish like never before.
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I mean, optimally we’d have both, but I’d definitely take story over sets. We can MOC G3 toa.
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Seeing how canisters will return… I don’t see how that would make sense in the story when originally they were meant to be just a toy packaging.[quote=“Sabretooth, post:354, topic:48962, full:true”]
I mean, optimally we’d have both, but I’d definitely take story over sets. We can MOC G3 toa
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I mean yeah, but we will miss out on a lot of cool parts.
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