So I just finished watching Reco in G. It has to be the definitive worst Gundam show created. And, for many good reasons. The designs are ugly. The only ones i had any interest in were the G Self itself, and the G Lucifer. The animation was inconsistent and choppy looking. The story was the worst part of the whole thing though. It was so overly complex that it was hard keeping up with the whole thing. It gave me a headache the more and more I watched. This was the first Gundam series I genuinely didnât enjoy. Even series like Unicorn, which I found boring, Though I liked the designs, this series had no redeemable traits.
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Dem space elevators really needed dat high-end CGI for intense dynamics amirite
thatâs an understatement
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why this show was created, i donât even know
turn a gundam was a fine end to the uc, which i loved
not to mention one of the suits in this show has the same destructive power the turn a had, but isnt used
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I highly disagree with this entire statement.
G Reco is far from the worst series in the Gundam franchise. The fact that it has theming and a focused narrative already puts it ahead of the low tier creations, like Gundam Wing.
Designâs being ugly is definitely a highly subjective area. I loved all of the designs for how creative they were, definitely used a different style as opposed to the contemporary Gundam formula.
Animation being inconsistent is a legitimate complaint, but I have to say itâs minor since the actual aesthetic and color pallet give it a much more unique appearance than the most recent IBO. If I had to compare the two, I would much rather have GReco because itâs animation has actual direction and cinematography as opposed to IBO that is mostly shot-reverse-shot with the occasional pan-in. There is more art and soul in Grecoâs direction.
And honestly, itâs plainly obvious that nuance and subtle storytelling is not your taste. If you can honestly say that Unicorn was âboringâ than I canât take your criticisms of the show seriously in the slightest.
The redeemable traits are clear: the show deals with the theme of a single mindset affecting a people (in this situation a religion and an old culture affecting the current state of diplomacy over a resource). The narrative expects you to keep multiple plot threads in mind as well as prior knowledge of UC and how the aftereffects of that calendar are still effecting the Reguild Century today.
I find GReco to be highly underappreciated because of how much it expects of its viewer. It doesnât hand hold, it is highly dense and fast paced with many details that in some cases requires a rewatch. Sure this isnât great in terms of it being a weekly television show, but as a work of art? It has many merits. Almost like Dark Souls.
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Coming from someone who has no context for any of this
You may want to tone down the condescension there, regardless or whether or not youâre right.
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Except, yâknow, for the fact that it wasnât focused. How many things happened in the first episode alone?
You have a group of military soldiers from a faction with no clear goal.
You have a girl who can do nothing but cry and scream âG.â
You have a brief shot of what appears to be a religious ceremony?
You have pirates who are attacking for some reason that doesnât seem to go beyond pillaging.
This isnât focused. Itâs a mess.
Iâm not sure if âprettier animationâ equates to touching someone on a spiritual levelâŚ
The animation was fine. Not great, but it was alright. I donât see how it functions on any level beyond âgiant robot anime animation,â however. I think Originâs animation is beautiful, but that has nothing to do with whether I think it has âsoulâ in how itâs directed.
Point being, I donât see what extra meaning there is to be found in giant Japanese robot animation 
Alright, for the record, saying something along the lines of âI have greater appreciation for deeper story than youâ isnât going to go very far. Something without exposition isnât subtle, itâs just badly done. If the average person fails to understand something, then it shouldnât be marketed towards the average person.
Keep in mind, Gundam isnât marketed towards a very particularly sophisticated audience. Itâs marketed to a lot of people, including young children, teens, nerds in a basement, and that one guy whoâs friend recommended him a show heâs never heard of. If it canât somehow appeal to most of these, then itâs not reaching the audience itâs intended to. Donât make it sound like itâs supposed to be more than it actually is.
Iâd like you to explain to me why almost everyone Iâve met who enjoys Unicorn (which is quite a few people) has only ever really regarded it good for the suit designs. I find it a little hard to believe that only a select group of people out of the many who enjoy it find the âtrue meaningâ of the show.
Not to mention, you fail to actually explain any way as to how the subtle elements help the show. Just saying theyâre there doesnât do anything.
If you canât explain why they realistically make the show really that much better than without them, then thereâs no argument to be had.
Except
You know
It IS a weekly television show. Thatâs what itâs intended to be. Itâs not supposed to be some deep level of art, no Gundam series really is supposed to. Itâs a TV show that is designed to be on a screen once a week so whoeverâs watching can enjoy it.
Hereâs the thing, youâre regarding it as artwork. Itâs a Gundam series. A weekly robot anime. Regardless of whether it is art or not is irrelevant. If it canât be a good weekly television show, itâs failed as itâs core purpose.
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Wing is one of like 5 Gundam series I have not yet seen, so I canât judge it for anything.
Yes, that is true, considering it is personal taste. however, a majority of my liking were not to my liking and I guess Iâm just more used to âtraditionalâ designs/[quote=âSou_Bu, post:190, topic:13270â]
Animation being inconsistent is a legitimate complaint, but I have to say itâs minor since the actual aesthetic and color pallet give it a much more unique appearance than the most recent IBO.
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Being unique does not make things good though. I did not like the aesthetic. IBO I liked more because it at least had a story I could follow. Not, itâs not that Iâm dumb or anything, I just couldnât follow it, and this is coming from someone who has seen 350 anime.
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If you can honestly say that Unicorn was âboringâ than I canât take your criticisms of the show seriously in the slightest.
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Unicorn was bad in my opinion because it was mostly something that spent time talking when it could have been doing something else. The only thing I can really give it is that it happened to better bridge between CCA and F91. Explain why you like Unicorn?
Yes, but the moral of the story wasnât clear with 50-something other things going on at once.
Turn A Gundam is my favorite series. It handled this much better, with things like the Dark History.[quote=âSou_Bu, post:190, topic:13270â]
I find GReco to be highly underappreciated because of how much it expects of its viewer. It doesnât hand hold, it is highly dense and fast paced with many details that in some cases requires a rewatch. Sure this isnât great in terms of it being a weekly television show, but as a work of art? It has many merits.
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Except this isnât what I expect of Gundam at this point. Most shows are the weekly anime, but I enjoy that. Now, I DO enjoy complex stories, but G in Recoâs story was weak and not one that Iâd invest my time in, whilst there are much better Gundam series.[quote=âJoe, post:192, topic:13270â]
Except, yâknow, for the fact that it wasnât focused
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Yeah like, this show could have benifitted from more episodes. If it was more than 25, they could have slown down the pacing and not overlap the arcs as much as they did. Gundam uses an excellent 26 x 2/50 episode formula which i feel works perfectly, and this show partially failed because of it.[quote=âJoe, post:192, topic:13270â]
You have a group of military soldiers from a faction with no clear goal.
You have a girl who can do nothing but cry and scream âG.â
You have a brief shot of what appears to be a religious ceremony?
You have pirates who are attacking for some reason that doesnât seem to go beyond pillaging.
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They try to explain these things, but it gets even more convoluted as they go.[quote=âJoe, post:192, topic:13270â]
Something without exposition isnât subtle, itâs just badly done
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This show not only has no exposition, it has no beginning middle or end.
i wonder who you could be talking about B)
I feel that in this show, I DID pay attention. Usually I listen to music whilest watching anime but I shut it off for this show because I needed to focus on it. I couldnât find any subtle elements.
This. Itâs Gundam. Gundam is supposed to be
uh
how do i put this
oh yeah
fun
unlike this show
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I really wish she was joking.
I really do.
Like it or not, this is entirely true. Whether you think Gundam should be something different is another matter, but there isnât a reason Reco should try to appeal to a much different audience than the kind of person who can enjoy most of all of the rest. Especially when the current formula catches a lot of different people, while this is much more specialized assuming itâs even supposed to be subtle and not just a mess.
The same people who buy a Full Armor as one of the first three kits and the other guy who says itâs good just because he likes the Banshee
Well, stuff like Origin isnât exactly fun. Same goes for Thunderbolt. Thing is, Iâll trade âoriginalâ or for âcomprehensible in the slightestâ any day of the week. No point in watching a show that I canât understand, even if it is supposed to be a ânewâ kind of Gundam series.
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kek[quote=âJoe, post:194, topic:13270â]
Like it or not, this is entirely true.
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This isnât to say I donât like Gundam, it just isnât what it was meant to be.[quote=âJoe, post:194, topic:13270â]
Whether you think Gundam should be something different is another matter, but there isnât a reason Reco should try to appeal to a much different audience than the kind of person who can enjoy most of all of the rest.
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I donât think Gudam should be something else; searching for something e
lse in another mecha show should be viewed during something like EVA or TTGL.
That is what it is though⌠Itâs all subjective, but keep in mind it has a 5.7/10 on Myanimelist.net.
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Maybe I phrased it wrong, but theyâre simply interesting and engaging to watch.[quote=âJoe, post:194, topic:13270â]
No point in watching a show that I canât understand, even if it is supposed to be a ânewâ kind of Gundam series.
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Exactly. And new =/= good
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I dunno man, I just like seeing robots fight.
(And I did really like Unicorn, but its also the only Gundam thing Iâve watched to completion)
Origin IV
Oh man Origin IV
Origin is mostly character-centered (like, Mobile Suits didnât even exist in the story until the second half) but the animation for the larger battles in IV was beautiful.
This was the first three minutes of Origin I. Just a brief warning, there are a few lower swears.
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Iâve been meaning to watch Origin and ThunderboltâŚbeen too lazy thoughâŚ
Thunderboltâs pretty good as well, but something about the animation doesnât click with me as well. Maybe itâs just the focus on characters that really arenât well developed that distracts me.
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I donât really like the music or the animation for it, Iâve just heard its good. The animation looks a tad too stylized and the constantly blaring Jazz just takes me out of even the smallest scene.
Itâs
Alright.
It well conveys the whole ârealistic war demonstrationâ thing but at the same time the story takes a major toll in plot elements.
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Akay.
So if I was to watch any Gundam show, which would you reccomend?
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Oh yeah Unicorn
I couldnât get into it, the story and characters was a slog and I was too impatient for action
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Depends, what do you want personally, in a show?
Glad to know Iâm not alone on this.
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Unicorn certainly dragged at times, and I certainly had a lot more fun when I watched it with my brother so we could at least entertain each other when the show failed to do so. Though I do enjoy what it did and at least the fights were cool.
Oh dearâŚa lot of thingsâŚ
But seeing as this is Gundam, Iâll leave the cheery escapism out.
Anyway, Depth, well written characters and good action. Something to leave me thinking about and enjoying even when Iâm done with the show. A good artstyle, a great soundtrackâŚa plot that makes sense to a total newbie like meâŚ
Oh yeah, and a good dub.
So all in all, Iâd like a show that is a immersive experience, something I can watch and be sucked into without having a huge glaring flaw staring me in the face and tearing me out of it every time It starts getting good.
Like I love Unicorn, Banshee, Sinanju and the others,
but like⌠ehhh it stretches my belief in UC
Still love the mobile suits and any kits from them
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