Is Warframe Pay To Win
Pay To Win is described as 'when a game company sells stuff that gives an in game advantage through micro transactions'
Does Warframe sell stuff that gives an in game advantage through micro transactions?
This is undeniable, though it has improved to an extent thanks to the founders/donators.
As a founder there were constant discussions with developers about the games Pay To Win nature - eventually they were convinced to change it to improve sales. I believe one of the main conversations at the time had a massive stream of comments were there was a back and forth between introducing helmets (Similar to TF2 Hat's) which you would unlock either randomly or be able to purchase. This is why its now primarily cosmetic upgrades or the ability to gain things if you wait long enough.
Admittedly despite being a horribly broken Pay To Win game at the start, Warframe's Pay To Win has improved to an extent.
Prime Vault offered the return of certain primes, though it could take months or years to get the Prime's you are missing via this method and certain Warframes simply wont return.
Mod's can be traded however there are certain Mod's that recieved a limited release so you'll be unlikely to find them
Certain Warframes can be traded, however those who have these Warframes will charge high prices in terms of platinum and the only way to get platinum is via doing trades, trades are limited to a set amount each day so it could take you weeks or months to get enough Platinum without buying from the story
As a founder me and others brought this up on occasions given the exclusive founder chat with the developers, which is why you are now saying its not Pay To Win - because myself and others actually convinced them to change it to improve sales. This is why its now primarily cosmetic upgrades or the ability to gain things if you wait long enough.
Its Pay To Win is done 'ok', in that a majority of the time the items will re-enter the game at some point months or years down the line (in some cases players are still waiting for specific mod's/warframes to be re-released)
Some players will ignore the exclusive Warframe that was given out solely to paying players. Others will ignore the mods given out by micro transactions that have still yet to be re-released.
The majority seem to lie that the micro transactions are only cosmetic and that the market trading allows you to get everything, however this is not accurate as market trading relies on other players having the item you want and some items/mods were only gainable through competitions or are limited so chances are you'd never find them in the trade.
I suppose its a tiny possability someone would have it, but you have more chances of winning the lottery every single week for a year than you do to find a specific mod released at the start of the game during a competition to a limited amount of members.
I was giving an example of a 'Pay To Win' exclusive because those still happen. You could only ever obtain them through micro transactions - and this situation specifically with Mod's has been happening up until i last played the a game a few months ago.
There is no such thing as 'Pay For Conveniance'. 'Paying for Conveniance' if anything would be more related to the motives for why you may pay. In addition, if you are paying for the conveniance of aspects that are only available in micro transaction... that perfectly matches the definition of Pay To Win as you are being inconvenianced by the lack of certain Warframes, Mods or Items.
There are Orokin Vault's to unlock certain mods', this requires;
- The user to be severely handicapped
- The user to bring a key with them that has a chance to unlock the vault
- The handicap of the person depends on the key
- The key's are difficult to find, make and use to rely on rare items*
*Unsure if this is the case anymore
The point being that this mission is clearly designed for four people. You have effectively a 1 in 4 chance (If RNGesus smiles upon you) however i've been a member in cases where we've had two party members with different keys that we kept the same each time, and after 10 tries neither of us got to open the vault.
Depends what you refer to as exclusive;
There are around 31 Warframes
Remember that trading requires you to have lots of something that someone else wants, specifically if you are getting Warframe pieces to make a Warframe.
Even if some of these are on a rotational basis, the Prime Vault for example, thats once every 6 months so assuming that each month you get one new prime... its going to be 15-16 YEARS before you get them all via this method.
- Plus in that time they'll have expanded the number of Warframes thus making it take even longer for you.
- Plus it has the possibility for the same Warframe to re-appear
There are around 839 Mods
Mod's are arguably the worst to collect;
- Around 839 in total
- 50 distributed in small numbers to competition winners
- 93 introduced solely as founder/donator perks.
- Another 100-200 that have never re-appeared since introduction in 2013
Once again, you can trade for these, but trading requires you to have something someone wants and a majority of the mod's that are traded are unfortunately rather basic.
I've been playing Warframe since its release.
I was one of the founders who eventually helped rally towards less 'Pay To Win' options. At one stage rather hilariously we debated with staff about cosmetic's such as hats for Warframes similar to Team Fortress 2.
I was one of those there for the developers partial breakdowns where we were told that they needed help promoting the game, for which we recommended a fan contest revolving around videos advertising the game.
The point is though that its not like you hit a pay wall. You dont have to hit a 'pay wall' for it to be 'Pay To Win'. Instead its a ranking difficulty level that limits progression, specifically solo progress which a lot of new players start off as - coupled with a limit to the variance of your Warframe should you neglect to get the newest frames or mods.
Certain loadouts are simply better than others and usually a specific mod can make all the difference or a specific Warframe can effectively have a better time with the same loadout.