Perhaps something in style of my Dume MOC
Or Lhikan
I actually did once Hagah Bomonga
You can even use masks as chest armor if you want
Or Lhikan
I actually did once Hagah Bomonga
You can even use masks as chest armor if you want
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This is my opinion, but given the situation where Greg replied, âHagah has a Metru build,â I think it helps a little.
By the time Greg replied, Norik and Iruini were already known to fans as they were.
Of course, as a figure with different legs and arms with Metru-Torso.
And with that in mind, Greg replies âYesâ to the question âDoes Hagah have a Metru-body?â
In other words, the premise of this answer is the fact that âHagah members, including Norik and Iruini, has at least a Meter-torso.â
In addition, this does not guarantee that Hagah has legs and arms like Toa Metru and Lhikan.
(Toa Metru had inspiradated by Lhikanâs appearance, at least this is canon.)
In addition, given that Greg has stated that all members of Hagah are from different hometowns,
With a very high probability, they feel it is reasonable to think that âhaving a Metru-torsoâ is âArm and legs are different that because the origin of the image as Toa is differentâ.
(At least Takua / Takanuva had inspirated by Toa Nuva. Especially he may get from Tahu, but his appearance of Toa has diffirent arm to tahu. it looks like more like Gali. but this fact has proof sometimes the transformersâ image will not recruited completely, or some image will be together to his appearance as Toa.)
(And this may proof the âMetru-Torsoâ is the most popular of âToaâs appearanceâ.)
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IMHO - yes, since the mold used for the Volitak isnât the one worn by regular land-dwellers but what do I know.
Also - funny how vehemently you defend using a particular part in this thread but for Lariska you immediately want everybody to use all parts immediately, despite the question raised basically being the same.
On the case of the volitak, would an art contest be required for Nidhiki since he wore the non-aquatic version?
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I didnât know Mazeka lived underwater.
Itâs not the same - Lariska is a member of a species we have never seen and know very little about. The only âclueâ as to what she should look like (other than the teal armor) is that sheâs a member of the Dark Hunters - but Dark Hunters have very varied and inconsistent looks anyway, so itâs as good as nothing. There are no restrictions to her look, other than somewhat aiming for the âG1 aestheticâ, but in her case literally anything will do. You wanted her to use pieces from 2004-2005 only - go for it, but that shouldnât be a requirement.
Toa Hagah are a different case. Theyâre members of a team with an already established look, both in-canon (Greg confirming theyâre Metru builds) and in set form (Norik and Iruini). It makes sense that the other 4 should look similar. In that other thread, your main argument against using CCBS on a G1 moc is that it would stand out - and non-Metru build Hagah wouldnât stand out just as much?
Idk man, to me making a member of a team with a pre-established look is quite different from making a member of an unknown species that belongs to an organization consisting of members or various different races that donât really look similar to each other.
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Mazeka wore a non-aquatic version of the same mold
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Guys I was under the impression that when you liked this or responded to it positively, it meant that we were good and didnât have to continue to argue this
But after that point Kini officially officially gave the final word for the time being, so Iâll just keep my mouth shut
And this is where past contests play heavily into this.
Your MOC - for Nidhiki, for Artakha, for Helryx, can have whatever mask it wants as long as other people have a way of getting their hands on the mask without absolutely mandating a purchase (free link to the 3d model, for example). The Artwork decides the mask, and yes, the artwork should design the non-aquatic variant of the Volitak.
Also, if the aquatic variant of the Volitak is also the standard variant, there wouldnât be an aquatic variant, would there?
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I always assumed the non-aquatic variant didnât have a hose connected to it, unlike the aquatic one. I mean, isnât that the case with all Mahri masks? There are no differences between the aquatic and non-aquatic ones other than the hoses.
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3d modelers + the creative side of the entire community would like a word with you.
To the best of my knowledge thereâs never been an official comment in regards to that (someone with the Greg archives please prove me wrong), but if that was in fact set in stone, youâd hardly have everyone and their dog modeling non-aquatic variants of the masks.
Plus, we have the opportunity to canonize yet another brand-new mask design, specifically one that draws inspiration and form from the aquatic variant. Why shouldnât we?
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Why SHOULD we tho?
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And I appreciate all the work put into designing these masks. They arenât canon though 
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Not yet. 
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Well idk if TTV will allow for non-official molds when it comes to characters that wear masks with an already established look. I mean, I wouldnât mind (Iâd love to have a canon Volitak without the breathing tank sticking out of its chin), but weâll see.
But weâre kinda missing my point here. A non-aquatic Volitak is still a Volitak, which mocs of Nidhiki and Chiara should be required to have.
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Nah see the patricianâs choice would be a Kualsii.
Clearly. XD
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Because I hate the stupid bulbous air tank growth hanging off the left side and youâre telling me thatâs a natural design of the mask?
Why canonize the characterâs design at all, for that matter?
Weâre contributing in a major way to Bionicleâs lore. The old community would fight for this opportunity to happen again, and weâre canonizing designs for how many characters again? Some of which have so much creative freedom itâs absolutely ridiculous.
Weâve also had difficulty with that much creative freedom, with large arguments over it being too little to go off of, and now arguments that the rules are too strict for the contest. As Eljay has stressed repeatedly, the very fact that we have the opportunity to run canon contests again is worth all the stress and strain of debating the rules out to a fine point, or staying up all night verifying emails to ensure every single last vote is completely legitimate⌠Or anything else Eljay and Meso have had to do in this nightmare of a community project.
If itâs worth it for them to beat the tar out of themselves, itâs worth it for me to both participate and attempt to keep things civil. Oh wait, you asked why SHOULD we. Well, the answer to that isâŚ
Itâs cool? Fun? Once-in-a-âlifetimeâ opportunity? Putting your own personal touch on the greatest LEGO theme ever to exist? Even if itâs something as small as plopping a mask on one character and nobody else, itâs your thumbprint on an incredibly influential intellectual property, one thatâs very special to most of the people on this site.
And for me, thatâs enough reason.
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guys seriously itâs been 24 hours.
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I donât even really know what this argument is about anymore.
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Guys, guys, itâs okay. Just say Iâm right.
Easy answer.
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Give me a synopsis of your point.
Youâre right.
What was that? I didnât mean to say that!
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