Well, one could technically argue that any kind of barb will do more damage when pulled out.
Upwards facing will cut deeper, downwards facing will rip, and non-directional - well they’re obviously not suited for the purpose of pulling them out any other direction, but if you do… yeah, that’s gonna be some nasty damage.
But I’m not gonna get more involved here.
Considering no other canonized Dark Hunter needed a rule to prevent this I see no reason as to why Lariska should have a mandate against that.
Edit: I still don’t think Lariskat should be allowed though
This has my vote and this is now canonically Tuyet.
Thank you!
I think this big size is also fit to her character as Prime-dimension and “Queen of Toa Empire” in alter-dimension both! 
(We already know Prime/Alter Tuyet has the same sword)
lol, the bright color and cheery disposition really contrasts with the mask and sword which is why the sword should’ve only belonged to her alt. self and her mask should have a neutral/good appearance
When asked what the difference between Tuyet and Helryx were Greg essentially answered Tuyet is a psycho.
That quote was the entire basis for this moc. So the bright colors, the poses and the mask is all intentional.
Well, we’re supposed to call swords axes and…whatever the hell Vahki staves are…staves. We can’t rely on literal definitions. The point is not that we must assume there is no fidelity to the actual meaning of a word here, but that we can’t reasonably presume fidelity.
I’m not saying they can’t be literal, textbook definitions of a barb, but when that function can apparently be fulfilled by a looser interpretation of the word–one that I actually did find in a popular dictionary–it would be less egregious to have PF barbs on the weapon than some of the other facets of Bionicle weapons we already have in canon.
Whatever. It’s been 3 days, and I don’t want to turn this into another month-long argument over something trivial when this only affects such a small portion of a given art submission. If anyone’s submission would be impacted by this ruling and wants to object to it, I’m rooting for you, but until that happens, I can’t be bothered to return to this subject, and I will once again stop checking this thread, because the last time I did that for a while, apparently there was a debate about the Yesterquesters’ weapons that I missed and I still don’t know why or how it happened.
And curved - Which again, serves to minimize damage when pulled out if pointed the opposite direction, rather than acting as hooks, the way barbs do.
there we have it. No contest needed, she looks like Helryx. /s
Wolk, you’re forgetting. Basic mechanical physics in BIONICLE is different in this instance because Greg Farshtey said that more complex physics was different when describing how things like the Kakama and Garai work. Just because a club is a blunt instrument doesn’t mean you can’t use it to cut through protosteel like warm butter. Physics is different.
(for those who apparently cannot distinguish jokes, because for some reason there are innumerable people on this website who can’t, this is a joke.)
Except she doesn’t. /s
I spy the makings of a basket hilt!
(Incidentally, and mostly unrelated to the contests, but my favorite sword in the whole world is the Scottish basket-hilted broadsword, for a variety of reasons. I own one, and as the Scottish broadsword’s basic fighting style is similar to the saber fencing that I also practice, I greatly enjoy studying its actual use and practice.)
…hang on, yeah, Greg did actually use the word “curved.” Why doesn’t the mandate require curved barbs rather than straight or polygonal additions? Because by that requirement…
…this shouldn’t be allowed in the art portion.
This is an awful lot of arguing over something Greg would absolutely “Sure” regardless of barb direction and shape.
Greg has never directly stated the direction of the barbs. Everything else is purely conjecture based on his statement of their purpose. Reversed is a good shout, but perpendicular to the blade is just as valid, and even forward-facing isn’t out of the picture given that “Doing more damage when pulled out” with forward-spikes is about as logical as stabbing someone with a broadsword anyway. Spike direction based on these arguments absolutely should not be a rule.
Greg did state the shape of the barbs, but this would be almost impossible to build with existing parts, unless you go the “Blade covered in Viking Horns” route, which looks terrible. With that in mind, it definitely shouldn’t be a rule.
Greg described Krika’s armour as “Covered in curved blades” and those are clearly angular spikes, which makes the barbs’ shape vague again anyway.
Due to excellent wording we still don’t have concrete proof that Prime Tuyet has the Barbed Broadsword. I’m of the mindset that she did, but Eljay only asked “Does she have a sword” to which Greg said “Yes,” which answers nothing and leaves No Sword Gang just as determined to shoot themselves in the foot before, except now there’s a rule against it with no solid foundation.
I thought we were done with increasingly pendantic and restrictive rules.
Working out the fine details of a character’s design should be half the point of having a contest in the first place. Use the Greg quotes for the broadest strokes (because that’s all they’re really good for) and then let the community build the specifics and vote on the outcome. It’s not like the previous contests haven’t changed small details that Greg OK’d anyway, and in all honesty, I strongly doubt he’ll ever say “No” regardless of what gets put on his desk.
Instead we’re getting executive decisions based on things Greg didn’t say.
This has been said before, but recent events convince me that the BB as a whole should be made optional in the moc portion. It’s more difficult to build compared to a hammer, mace, or spear, due to its very specific description and a lack of pieces that accurately reflect said description.
Hey guys, just wanted to point out that Greg never said Tuyet was blue. Of course, it can be obviously inferred from the fact that everyone recognized her as a Toa of Water, and no one comments on her armour colour, but since Greg never directly said this thing, we should allow a red and green Tuyet. Because creative freedom, right?
This kinda looks like lhikan’s swords, but just with barbs. They’re twins now!
This makes absolutely no sense.
I can understand the arguments behind not reading too far into things, but “curved barbs” isn’t one of those cases. You admitted yourself that Greg has explicitly confirmed the shape of the barbs.
Whether the rule will be in the MOC portion, or be Art-only, remains to be seen, but the rules absolutely need to mandate “curved barbs” at some point in this contest.
(Also, 3d-printed parts are an option, if you’re concerned about the sword looking “ugly”)
I know you’re trying to make a point, but he actually has.
I hate to think of what would be happening right now if he hadn’t, but Greg has confirmed that Tuyet is blue on multiple occasions.
