BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

It’s how TTV gets away with running official Lego contests on their site: they’re labeled as “educational”.

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Here's my first update on the Greg Quotes. Character 1 was Orde, as he was the easiest to do so far.
  1. what are Orde’s and Zaria’s mask powers?
  1. They were never assigned mask powers.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page744#post12928298

1.is there the POSSIBILITY of other prototypes than the Av-matoran? matoran, toa, turaga (or similar beings), of sand, etc.

  1. Not that I am aware of. We already know who the first Toa was, for example.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page745#post12933815

Hey Greg! I just wanted to ask: was Orde created as a Toa, or was he a male Matoran of Psionics that was transformed into a Toa?

Created as a Toa.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2010-2011/page1#post14

Is Orde really Marendar in disguise?

No. Marendar does not use disguises. I didn’t see the point in having to do that since it would make him too much like the baterra.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2010-2011/page1#post16

  1. Is Orde blue and gold like every other Toa of Psionics?
  1. Yes

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2010-2011/page1#post20

1a. Were there any Ce-Matoran in existence before Orde’s creation?
1b. If so, they would have been male, correct?
1c. Would the GBs have bothered to alter the existing Ce-Matoran’s AI to make them female, or just let them be?

  1. No

Official Greg Quotes | Page 1

  1. What mask does Orde wear?

  2. Don’t know yet

Official Greg Quotes | Page 3

  1. Are you able to tell us what kanohi masks Toa Zaria and Toa Orde have?

  2. What Toa Tools do the Yesterday Quest Toa have?

  3. What does the Skakdi Fusion call itself?

  4. Have some of the characters who have been resurected in the Red Star been killed by the Kestora? And if so, which ones?

1-4) Unfortunately, since it has been almost four years since I did any BIONICLE work, it is not fresh in my mind.

Chat with Greg Farshtey | Page 49

  1. What mask does toa Zaria and toa Orde ?

  2. What is the name of great being who touched the mask of life?

None of this information exists, and I cannot name new characters because I no longer have an approved name list from LEGO.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page341#post10155679

Considering that the great beings made orde male before making other psionic matoran female, does that mean there could be other exceptions to the “gender element” rule with other elements?

Possibly.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page354#post10426441

  1. What Kanohi does Zaria and Orde wear?
  1. Never was determined

Chat with Greg Farshtey | Page 366

Do you know what kanohi were primarily worn by Zaria and Orde

  1. No. Masks have been suggested for them, but I have not confirmed them.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page883#post14475908

  1. Could you possibly confirm the kanohi worn by Zaria and Orde ?
  1. I don’t recall what was suggested for that.

https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page892#post14536283

So, what is Orde 's kanohi?

If it’s not mentioned in story, then I didn’t assign him one because story did not demand it.
Chat with Greg Farshtey | Page 910

I will be double checking that I didn’t miss anything but the details are:

Blue and Gold Colorscheme
Wields a Mace
Mask not decided
Not Marenadar
Made as a Toa
No contradictions so far

Also to add another potential canon contest character, the only thing we know about Kodan is that he died, was a Po-Matoran and wasn't with Naho.

“3a)Are Naho falls named after Toa Naho by the Turaga Metru?
3b)Was she one of the Toa that traveled with Kodan?
3c)Did she wear a Kakama (speed)?
3) Yes
3a) No
3c) No”
Official Greg Dialogue | Page 58

“1) Which metru did Kodan come from?
2) And is he/she still around in “present day?”
) Po-Metru
2. No, he’s dead”

Official Greg Discussion | Page 107

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Guys I found a contradiction! Greg answered yes and no to the same question!

Edit: that’s actually good to know if Naho has a contest: she specifically doesn’t wear a Kakama.

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Trust me, you wouldn’t believe how many situations of accidental miss-numbering and spelling errors you see that make it look like a contradiction exists.
And that people seemed really hung up on the YQT masks. Like most of Orde’s questions were either about his mask or how a male Toa of Psionics could exist. Zaria so far is a similar situation
Kinda wish someone asked about what color Metallic Grey was instead of a repeat question

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Though this is debatable if this happens to be during the time she had a Huna. @TheJerminator do you happen to know when the Huna was canonized/decanonized?

Edit2: never mind, I found it, it was after this.

So nacho is confirmed to not wear a Kakama.

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I think you meant Naho. We all know Nachos use masks if speed./s

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@Mechronus here is a few on tyq toa I gathered a while back

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Thanks! There’s a mountain of quotes I’ve gotta sort through so any already known ones help a ton.

Also after I finish my first go through for the current CC characters, I’m gonna do a full dive to try and sort through the entire archive so we can find the quotes easier. Who knows? Maybe I’ll find out about a forgotten character or fact that was lost

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Just for context, people were asking about the Kakama, specifically, because The Shadowed One found an old Kakama on the Great Barrier in Time Trap. Of course, we now know that this Kakama belonged to the Toa Mangai of Earth, not Naho.

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The Toa Mangai of Earth is the one to have worn the Kakama. Naho’s mask is currently unknown (a fan named Lewa Krom asked for a Huna, got his wish, but rescinded the wish after some backlash; and a later poll had the Huna in position to win, but I guess by that point Greg wasn’t allowed by Lego to continue the official discussions anymore).

It was because BZPower lost a bunch of their archives and other content before the poll could be finalized.

Guys Greg never actually said Orde even wears a mask. That means there’s no canonical reason to mandate that Orde entries have a mask. Maybe he was too stubborn to wear a kanohi.

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I didn’t actually know that. The only reasoning I had was from BS01’s section on incomplete contests, but I didn’t actually know if that applied to this one or not. Still, my point stands.

It is a little strange that the Stone Mangai never got a mask, but I guess he never will now.

I’ve been pushing for either Naho or Kodan to have a gray mask included in their contest, to represent the powered off mask the Stone Mangai wore. After all we canonized the others, why not his?
Additionally it would be gray so we didn’t have to canonize his color scheme

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What if it was all a cover up to not finish the Naho kanohi contest/s

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We could also just hold a poll for his mask like bzp used to do. We’re holding canon contests anyway. I’m not saying we should canonize masks for every Toa, but since he’s the only member of the team without one…

Could make another good “between contests” thing.

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idk let’s just give him a pakari and call it done

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Actually that’s a great idea! I’ve also been saying do just a mask contest for the missing Noble Masks and Great Kiril so in between mask art contest/mask canonizing contests could be great.

What about a variant Pakari, shaped like one of the old hockey masks? Maybe he was from the southern continent like Lhikan.
image

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eh
nah

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Just out of curiosity, why would you specifically link the hockey masks with the Pakari, out of all the Kanohi out there? Why not the Hau, or even a new mask entirely?

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