Just to make sure I understood you correctly:
You are technically saying that I can join the Tuyet contest with a variation mask of intangibility but even if it wins it would not count as a variation of the mask.
I am aware of what the intent was, but, as was shown in the Artakha contest, the intent behind a function doesnāt really matter.
My point is that the entry shouldnāt be disqualified simply for using Rhotuka Launcher parts.
Now, whether or not the functionality would be canonized remains to be seen, and that ruling may affect the creatorās decision to include the function on the model, but thatās not my point right now. My point is that the model should be allowed as-is.
Yes.
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I donāt think Iāve once said it should be either.
Iāve only said that I donāt want details with story significance to be added to characters haphazardly without canon basis.
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Never
it is not intended to give her the rhotuka ability as a backdoor in the contest.If adding āher left arm looks like an artificial rhotuka launcherā about her is a backdoor, I admit it. Actually, I didnāt mean to do that either.
If itās a backdoor in terms of design, I admit it.
It can be used as a toy function in real life, I just thought that it would be fun as a toy if it had both the Hordika arm function and the rhotuka function at once.
If greg look at the rhotuka function and say āSureā, yes, it could be good for me, but many people may not like it. Iāve seen many contests result so far and I donāt think thereās any possibility that it will be Canonized, so I think it just design element that have nothing to do with Canon.
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I believe he refers to the fact that Greg hasnāt canonized Bomongaās and Pouksā mask shapes as Faxon and Kakama variants/versions, and since they donāt mach with any of the actual canon designs, they are just masks resembles to them, but I might be wrong about the intention.
And no, Greg only canonized the Toa Hagah artwork, but he wasnāt asked whether or not these two masks with new designs are variants, like Lhikanās Hau. And he doesnāt seem to plan to answer for the clarification question of Mechronus either. One could say ājust bend the rules and say that both masks on the art are stylistic versions of the official/canon molds,ā but it would be kind of disrespectful to Galva, who designed them to be different.
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Weāre not, youāre just being unreasonable.
Weāre deciding these charactersā appearances in full. Every detail has story significance, and 90% of the small choices made in the design process have no explicit canon basis. That is the point of these contests. There was no canon basis for Helryx to have tubes, or Artakha to be fat, or Bomonga to have obviously not skipped leg day.
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Anyway, I think I got the answer. If I had lost it even the possibility as a design element at all, I would have had to considerably think about designing a new arm.
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Oh come on, itās one of the more unique robotic arm designs for her so far. If someone has any problem with the built-in launcher, or in any case the contest clashes with it, I guess removing the yellow piece would solve the problem, Without it, you canāt even attach a rhotuka to it, not even launch one, but still retains the unique design imo.
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I think I can determine when people put words in my mouth and twist my intention. Not being able to tell that would imply that I do not know what I myself is speaking about which I very much do. Thank you
It really doesnāt, at all. If it did these contest would look way different but there is a clear distinction between making a characters leg digitigrated vs say add canon weapons they were never implied to have.
Not exactly what Iām saying, As far as Iām aware Greg did not go out of his way to say that Gaakiās mask was new or that Pouks and Bomongaās mask were variants. They are canon because Greg said the Hagahās apperances were canon but he didnāt say what the shapes were. They donāt need to be neccesarily old powers but Greg never said they were new powers or variants.
Its a fair compromise but again Iām sure TTV wonāt make a rule against an arm rhotuka. It hasnāt even been my point this entire argument that it should be a rule.
The Hagah masks arenāt Schrƶdingerās canon or anything. Pouksās, Gaakiās, and Bomongaās masks currently represent unknown powers. Theyāre not in any sort of canonical limbo, quantum state, or anything else. It doesnāt matter what Greg says the shapes are, we can see with our eyes that they are not 1:1 matches for other masks in the canon. āMasks of unknown powerā is enough to describe them. The shapes are canon.
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how predictable people latches on to the word shape and argues from that.
Iām arguing with that statement. Iām not saying youāre wrong because of the word shape. You said that Greg never confirmed if the masks were new or old powers - I said that that does not matter, because we can look with our eyes to see that they are not any previously-introduced masks, and since we donāt know what masks without shapes look like, they can only be unknown power.
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To be a little critical, well, itās better to stop mentioning hagah mask . The reason why such criticism continues to emerge is that whenever you talk about something, you used Hagah mask as an example.
it is not a joke. It is mentioned once every three days, and the topic and hagah mask seem so unrelated in other peopleās eyes, but it is mentioned.
just people donāt like to think too much about hagah masks anymore.
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my guy chill the heck out
you can disagree with him as violently as you like, or be as violently confident that you are right as you like, but thereās literally zero reason to be rude
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My eyes tell me that Bomongaās mask looks like a Faxon and Pouksā looks like a Kakama.
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My eyes tell me theyāre not exact or near-exact matches with the canonical molds, so we canāt say that they 100% represent those masks.
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But we also canāt say they are 100% new powers.
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And I donāt think Iām arguing that theyāre new powers, just that they are āunknownā. Itās not that complex.
Edit: additionally, if Bomongaās and Pouksās masks are never canonized as variants of the Faxon and Kakama, then, for all intents and purposes, they are brand new masks with distinct powers.
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And 'm just saying that Greg has a precedence in these contest not to cannonize details like Kanohi powers or play functions.
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Okay. Clearly someone needs to say this:
Stop it with Tarkur
Tarkur cannot say literally anything in this topic without someone coming in to yell at him for something he said months ago. Twice now he brings up the Hagah contests as an example of something relevant to the current discussion about contests only for someone to only read the words āhagahā and tell him to ālet it goā, āstop complainingā. Itās ridiculous.
I get it, Tarkur is blunt and has controversial opinions. But can we at least try to treat him with some civility?
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