A 2/5 joke for a 2/5 company, EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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How I miss the ability to delete off topic replies
Anywho, an interesting thing I wanted to add on to my initial thoughts a question I think is important to consider in the upcoming months, what makes something qualify as a successful to bionicle for you? The franchise altered its thematic ideas throughout the decade it ran, and also had shifts in the complexity of the worldbuilding, storytelling, etc, so what, if not just the name, would make this new “thing” qualify as a bionicle successor?
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Honestly, I feel just something that respects its audience as thinking people who like elemental cyborgs and not mindless consumers 
And has some robit a e s e t h e t i c
I’m honestly not sure what exactly I define as “bionicle”, and that’s probably going to be different for everybody anyway. I for one like me some lore.
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In my opinion, a true successor would be something that doesn’t necessary have a direct connection to the original (although that would be more than welcome), but keeps the same themes, ideas, and level of storytelling. If it’s story would be at least close to the level of the original, I would be more than pleased. G2 fall short out of expectations because of it’s dumped down, lackluster story that barely had any effort put into it. So, the story should obviously be the most important aspect of it. At this point, Ninjago is the theme that got the closest to the title of Bionicle’s true spiritual successor. If this new reboot would keep the level of Ninjago’s story at the very least, I see no reason why people would not be happy with it.
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Personally, I could go a few different ways. 2005 and 2007 are my favorite years, and in particular, something that takes after Metru-Nui’s city-based aesthetic could be a really good way for Faber to explore the whole nature/technology dynamic and environmental themes he’s been talking about as of late.
On the other hand, on a purely fanservice level, what always defines Bionicle for me is the basic premise of X heroes come to save an island, and the primarily tribal influence of the early years. (Maybe part of the reason I’m so soft on G2 is that at least it got those basic elements down pretty well, even if it failed to really develop past that…) Faber definitely seems to be going in that direction at least in part, if the concept art is anything to go by, so I’m feeling optimistic about that.
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There was an entire topic about this already that basically sums up most of the Message Boards members’ opinions on this:
Yes, I know He Who Should Not Be Named was the original poster and was involved in portions of this discussion, but there are a lot of valid, insightful opinions otherwise.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bioniclelego/comments/c6i8bv/new_instagram_post_from_christian_faber/
Faby Baby just posted this: a Hau reflected in a Valve Index headset, said to have just “landed on our beach.” The “maskoffuture” tag may be an allusion to the Vahi, or just a general reference to Kanohi. While it may be a stretch, there could be a VR game in the works. That would explain why Cryoshell’s involved–they made the soundtrack. He also has “valve” in the tags, possibly referencing the brand of headset but also maybe implying whatever he’s doing is coming to Steam. Again, bit of a stretch, but I have no idea what else this could be for.
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Dang I didn’t notice the Hau at all the first time I saw this earlier today😂
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I’m assuming “our beach” is related to Faber’s concept of “Turaga Beach”, used in conjunction with G2.
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Hmmm…possibly some kind of immersive VR experience?
Not gonna lie, that’d be really cool, but not everyone has access to high quality VR. If it’s just a facet of whatever his plan is, more power to him, I just hope whatever the plan is, it’s accessible.
I should add though, this is his most recent post:
So this is most likely a Rebel Nature venture primarily. But he did say this in the headset one:
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Bionicle is in The Matrix confirmed.
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my own theory about “14B2020” is that it’s not a Reboot, but a retelling of G1. it’s the 2001 story (as the art very clearly depicts), but expanded on and more fleshed out. reading over the teaser text, as well as some of the comments left by Faber himself certainly seem to be pointing in this direction.
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But at the same time he’s also saying about “moving forward”. I’m not sure this is it chief
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the main pieces of evidence that lead me to the G1 retelling conclusion was the line from the dream in a shell post.
everything will be like never before.
everything will be like never before. in other words, everything will be told again, but not in the same way.
“Remember that a biological chronicle has to work like Biology where things are broken down into pieces to become something new. The old is not lost but reworked into new meaning. This is how things evolve and refine into new ideas and stories.”
taking the old and reworking it into something new. if that isn’t confirmation then i don’t know what is.
these are just the examples that i could recall off the top of my head too. do a bit of digging and you’ll see that there’s a lot more evidence to support this.
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So, the new story for this new reboot will be told through a VR game?
Good point. Such a game would be awesome, but few people will be able to access it. I would rather have it as a regular game that has VR compatibility rather than a fully VR game.
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Or it could mean it will be like never before, like new 
Or… that could mean it’s a reboot? That’s literally what a reboot does
I really don’t see how it confirms it’s a retelling and not a reboot, from that wording alone all is said is that it’s “something old being remade into something new”, which applies to both. When you add in the “moving forward” stuff it sounds a lot more like a reboot to me, sorry.
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Bionicle Framework? /s
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This theory is immediately discredited by Faber’s art and posts, which depict settings and implies a cosmic scale unlike anything in G1. None of the Toa woke up in an ice cave, and nothing signified a galactic-level setting. On top of that, Faber’s drawn attention to the process of evolution, by which organisms change to fit their environment. Bionicle, most likely, will have to “evolve,” or change to be better suited for today’s culture and issues. That entails a reboot, not just a retelling; otherwise, Bionicle will not actually change.
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No, not likely, the VR seems to be primarily for Rebel Nature.
The only thing the VR posts have in relation to Bionicle is the Hau Faber had in the reflection and the mention that it could also be used for 310N, but I don’t think we have any reason to believe that project was always intended to be VR related.
And if VR does end up being used, it’s also not likely to be a game. Most likely it’d be an experience, a storytelling venture using immersive sights and sounds as opposed to a game involving player interaction.
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No you’re getting this confused with Bionicle Iliad[quote=“SirKeksalot, post:454, topic:48962, full:true”]
This theory is immediately discredited by Faber’s art and posts, which depict settings and implies a cosmic scale unlike anything in G1. None of the Toa woke up in an ice cave, and nothing signified a galactic-level setting. On top of that, Faber’s drawn attention to the process of evolution, by which organisms change to fit their environment. Bionicle, most likely, will have to “evolve,” or change to be better suited for today’s culture and issues. That entails a reboot, not just a retelling; otherwise, Bionicle will not actually change.
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Evolution was also a non-factor in the original Bionicle, as all MU inhabitants were created by either the Great Beings or other MU inhabitants. However metal and electrical components are incapable of alteration biologically so if this is a common theme in 310N he’s got some explaining to do.[quote=“TheMightyObsidianDude, post:452, topic:48962”]
I really don’t see how it confirms it’s a retelling and not a reboot, from that wording alone all is said is that it’s “something old being remade into something new”, which applies to both. When you add in the “moving forward” stuff it sounds a lot more like a reboot to me, sorry.
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Just to make it through.
Faber’s concocting something. Whether it’s a medicine or a malady he still has yet to reveal. However the concept of a Rebel nature video game is interesting.
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