Should mention Lucas didn’t originally concieve Vader to be Luke’s father nor Leia his sister. They were changes he made in pre-production of ESB and ROTJ. (SFdebris made a good miniseries on the story of Lucas and Star Wars, check it out.)
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Also, my apologies if I sounded harsh in my previous reply. I could probably have phrased it better.
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People are still saying that Disney doesn’t listen to fans? Come on.
Look, here’s an example. People were complaining about how Master Chief – wait, wrong script – the heroes in Invasion from Below – no, that’s not it either, where is that darn thing… ah! – Boba Fett kept taking off his helmet. So in the Ahsoka series, they gave Ezra a helmet and made sure he wore it as long as possible. I mean, sure, it was completely unnecessary, he had no reason to be wearing the helmet in the first place, it ruined the emotional reunion by being so stupid – but they gave the fans what they asked for, helmets. If that doesn’t show that they care, I dunno what will.
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Well, he owned a droid. 
And yeah, they’re all justified retcons; but they are all retcons. I’m pointing out examples of contradiction or changes that were in the originals. Even (some of) the contradictions in Kenobi were justified by the story. Badly, yes, but they were.
You’re all good.
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I should mention in case anyone was wondering: yes, I enjoy reading Star Wars lore. Yes I play Star Wars games and once read Star Wars books. One of my favorite things about Star Wars was reading about the film-making process because Lucas was a director who was very open about it with his behind-the-scenes features.
However, it has always been from a casual standpoint. Simply put, Ghid is correct. My enjoyment of Star Wars has always just been casual fandom of it, nothing more. I don’t go on the internet raging about it. I do get into deep discussion about it sometimes, but never have I been just rabid about it. I frankly don’t have that sort of time to waste anyways!
Now, to be clear, I still dislike Disney Star Wars and dislike much of the direction Filoni has taken it. I was, however, super willing to change my mind when Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2 came out (and even defended the ending of season 2 here, if anyone remembers, despite having a super unpopular opinion about it). Then Book of Boba Fett came out and I remembered why I had a sour taste about Star Wars and went to actively avoiding it again.
The only reason I even watched Ashoka was because of my brother. If you want my real thoughts: I thought the show was super boring throughout most of it. I thought there were some stupid moments. And like the complete normie I am, I enjoyed the scenes with Anakin and the live action clone wars. (Which BTW props to the child actress who played Ashoka she did a fantastic job!)
However, despite perhaps my more old-fashioned views of things, I refuse to be called someone who lacks “common sense” simply for disliking a silly sci-fi franchise’s current state of things. It is, ultimately, all vanity to get caught up in it. You either enjoy it or you do not. Either way, fandom can be expressed in many different ways, and I think people ought to respect that!
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As long as it’s edible.
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So, currently I’m 3/4 of the way through watching Andor and all I can say is WOW…
A smart, surprisingly mature show with nuanced characters and stakes that actually feel real, that addresses heavy, serious topics and manages to keep me on the edge of my metaphorical seat each episode. It almost feels like this show can’t be real , given the current state of Star Wars (the contrast between this and stuff like mandalorian babysitting and whatever that boba fett show was is absurd), yet somehow, miraculously, it is, and I’m here for it.
Actually, now that I think about it, I’ve never seen anything Star Wars-related quite like this. It makes me experience things I never thought this franchise would ever make me experience, and I want more
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Ngl this sounds like every single person I have ever seen in Instagram (not that I’m insulting you or anything, it just feels like this is becoming a trend rather than an opinion people seriously hold). I haven’t watched Andor, so I can’t say anything about it, so idk how it is. I should watch at some point, I suppose.
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It actually is a really good show, Rogue One has always been my favorite Star Wars film and Andor continues the trend by being my favorite show
That team just gets it
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enjoyment 
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Ok, that makes sense. I didn’t know they had the same people writing it.
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Well, I would have no way of knowing that, considering that I don’t use instagram (or any other social media, for that matter).
Also, maybe if a majority of people say that something is good, it might indicate that the thing is… well… actually good, ay?
Oh definitely. It’s very clear that they have a lot of talent and genuine passion for what they’re doing. I wish they were put in charge of projects more often.
Never heard of it 
So, one more update on Andor: I finished it.
And oh boy, they really saved their best for last. Somehow the last quarter of the show managed to raise the plank for quality even higher.
(I’ll try to avoid spoilers for the show as much as possible, because I want everyone who happens to be reading this and hasn’t watched it yet to have the best viewing experience if they ever decide to do so)
I must say that the writing is simply phenomenal here. It’s clever, three-dimensional, things are often implied, instead of being blatantly explained to the viewer, plot threads are subtly set up long before they fully come into play, it’s a viewing experience that requires the audience to think and stay focused just enough to be engaging, but doesn’t go too far and become too complex and confusing. It’s definitely not a show that you can watch while scrolling through tiktok or something, which I’ve missed a lot with Star Wars in recent years.
Another great aspect of the writing are the characters, that feel like actual, real people with different worldviews that can change naturally, with believable motivations and actions that make sense within the context of those motivations. The quality of character writing especially shows in episodes 10 and 12, with some characters giving really powerful monologs (I won’t specify much more, but you’ll recognize them immediately when you hear them).
Another thing this show does well is it manages to keep the stakes high. Here, people actually die when they are killed (which should be a normal thing to expect in any piece of fiction, but apparently modern SW has had an abhorrent track record with it), creating a constant sense of danger. Andor managed to make the Empire feel like a genuine threat again (Rogue One was one of the few other stories from this franchise that managed to do that comparatively well). Here it truly feels like an unstoppable, merciless machine, run by competent people. Even the appearance of something as trivial as a Tie-Fighter gives a great sense of danger.
The combination of everything I listed above leads to a ton of truly powerful moments, some of which even got me in the feels (which almost never happens to me when I’m watching something).
I also feel like it’s worth mentioning that Andor does not rely on fanservice whatsoever. In modern SW it’s a very common practice to use nostalgia bait to keep audiences engaged in a product (stuff like Luke showing up at the end of season 2 of Mando, Luke and Ashoka showing up in Boba Fatt… for whatever reason, Vader showing up to confront Kenobi in his TV show, even though they weren’t supposed to meet between their duel on Mustafar and the final showdown on Death Star 1, completely destroying the timeline, and the list goes on), it’s basically them going “see, our show has a thing from the older movies that you like, so you must like our show as well”, which oftentimes feels kinda cheap. And this show doesn’t have any of that whatsoever. The only thing that comes close to that is the post credit scene in the last episode, but here it’s less about showing off something cool and recognizable from the OG movies and more about expanding on a concept set up earlier on in the series. So, Andor is a show that relies only on its own merits, while building upon the foundation that is the SW world, instead of relying on the merits of older works in hopes to stay exciting, without bringing much of value to the table, like most other modern SW shows do. And I find that very respectable.
I think that the biggest praise that I can give Andor is that it’s the only SW show that I can genuinely recommend to someone who doesn’t care about Star Wars, or sci-fi in general, for that matter
So yeah, this is my two cents about Andor. This series got me very excited, so I simply had to put my thoughts on it somewhere. And this place was the first one that came to mind… so yeah…
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So when I was driving home today, this guy was going like 5 miles below the speed limit in front of me. I happened to be listening to my Empire Strikes Back CD on the drive home. Suddenly, Imperial March played very loudly, more than I expected. The guy in front of me suddenly started going faster after that. I drove home enjoying the rest of the song.
Is this how it feels to be the villain?
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No, that’s simply enjoying the power of an ordered galactic state.
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But what if you were the villain?
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The Acolyte is my favorite show
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I heard about that, never watched it myself. Was it really as bad as people said it was?
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Nah, it was worse.
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Andor S2 looks like it will be good.
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