Was just gonna revive the Chima general discussion only to realise… there never was one :P
Time to rectify that! Chima is an utter mess of a show and I would love nothing more than to ramble about that to people. And to hear all of your thoughts too!
Thank you to @Minethuselah for putting this idea in my head
it’s chima’ing time
Uhhh, didn’t you make a report on this?
outdated, inaccurate, poorly researched, misinformation
I have much improved since then, and may actually have that old topic deleted come to think of it
Plus I wanna hear what other people’s thoughts on Chima are too
Still think Crooler is part of a rebellion and the lions are absolute stuck-ups.
Are sets fair game for discussion?
Crooler is definitely still justified in hating the lions and her desire to retaliate against them is very reasonable. Generally her tactics are sound, she’s a very cooperative person and is more than willing to form alliances and employ hired help to achieve her goals.
Where Crooler falls apart a bit in terms of morality is her mind-control over Cragger, which, while perhaps an attempt to get him to see through the lions’ lies, is still extremely questionable. Combined with her attempted double genocide and the fact that she’s more than willing to have religious artefacts stolen and children kidnapped to attain victory, she’s far from a perfect role-model.
Even so, Crooler is still a much better person than most of the “heroic” tribes despite this. Which really goes to show how astoundingly awful they are :P
Yes! Personally I think Chima’s sets are incredible, though I really don’t like how much certain tribes got shafted after the first few waves
In that case…
I only have one currently built, which I got for Christmas. It’s Gorzan’s Gorilla Striker, which shocked me in that (arm-swinging function notwithstanding) it feels and looks like a much more recent mech set. I’m also waiting on Worriz’s Combat Lair to arrive for my birthday in a couple weeks, so hopefully that thing is as cool as it looks. I also owned a couple of the fire vs. ice battle packs, Braptor’s Wing Striker, and I have two copies of the Brickmaster book somewhere. Unfortunately the parts for all of them have long been dispersed into my collection and are now considered irretrievable unless I actually get something done this summer. 
As for the show, I never saw much of it, although given the way people talk about it I’m not convinced that’s a bad thing exactly.
Gorilla Striker is awesome! Such a shame it was the only Gorilla vehicle released, not counting Gorzan’s bizarre weaponised shopping trolley side-build from Sir Fangar’s Frozen Fortress
Combat Lair is one of the last 2013 sets I need, and it also contains the single 2013 minifigure I’m missing, Windra! It’s really unfortunate that the girls were usually the only minifigures who were exclusive to a set
In fact, the only female minifigure in Chima who isn’t a set exclusive is Eris and her variants. Crooler, Windra, G’loona, Spinlyn, Li’ella, Sibress and Vultrix were not only set-exclusive but usually also paywalled behind the most expensive sets of a given wave, even a store exclusive in Spinlyn’s case! No wonder she’s like £40 on her own now
I loved the sets (more than Ninjago at the time tbh) but the show was complete mess
I enjoyed the Li’ella mini-figure featuring a normal Lion Tribe variant. Truly, the Tribe Packs were nice little sets featuring good pieces useful in MOCs.
I prefer to think of the nameless Lions attached to the Tribe Pack set as having the names of Levi and Lindiwe.
Now, the concept art for the original Chima line featured many elderly tribe members sporting possible new beard molds. That would have been quite the find if it became a reality.
Heres a question: Are the spider and scorpion tribes outcasts or something? Or are they just isolated by choice?
If I remember correctly, the Bat, Spider, and Scorpion Tribes were created by accident when a bunch of totally-not-the-mutagen-from-TMNT Chi fell into a big ravine and made a bunch of animals from down there all anthropomorphic and all that. So, not Isolated by Choice, and not Outcasts, they were just made by accident, no one knew they were down there, and then they came up for more Chi and just started attacking people. at least, that’s what I remember.
That almost sounds as lazy as G2. It would probably be better if they integrated the characters properly.
I have watched a lore recap for Chima since I sent that message, while the Bat, Spider, and Scorpion Tribes were created by accident, throwing the Chi down the big ravine they were in wasn’t an accident, it was some fight with Laval trying to keep the Crocodile Tribe from having any of the Chi they were supposed to be given, so he stole their Chi and ran off and eventually dumped it into the ravine.
I started rewatching some Chima and yeah, I can definitely see what we were talking about, Maddness.
Seems like aggression on the part of the “good guys” is excused while “aggression” on the part of the “bad guys” is punished. Good example is “The Warrior Within,” Laval wants to withhold Chi from the crocs and accidentally starts a conflict because of how the crocs respond. It really coulda been something nice about how chi is supposed to be shared or whatever, but it ends on a rather disappointing note. Laval realizes his mistake eventually but it comes very late in the episode and he doesn’t do anything to correct it besides rolling around in a field with Eris. Also Gorzan set up the highway patrol?
The gorillas honestly seem to be some kind of strange hippie extremists, taking into consideration their genocide attempt too. The Warrior Within showcases one of their most bizarre choices as they decide to totally obstruct a public highway using military vehicles - without any sort of authorisation mind you - in order to protect a single flower on the road. G’loona even points out how stupid this is to the other gorillas but they instead ignore her. They go about directing anyone attempting to use the road through a “detour” which is just an endless jungle, and beating the crap out of anyone who tries to, quite reasonably, pass through their illegal blockade regardless
It’s an incredibly absurd situation where the show again somehow tries to portray the gorillas as good guys for being a general public nuisance
Lesson learned: get the hippies out of the road.
Jokes aside, yeah, the whole flower deal seemed disconnected and totally random… the only time it really interacted with the main story was when the wolves got delayed and when Laval and Eris have their little romp through the fields instead of Laval facing the music for his actions.
I’m willing to bet that whoever wrote the script wrote a brief outline in his head for two episodes, couldn’t beef them out into their own things, so he combined them to create whatever The Warrior Within was. Also, what’s with the title? Maybe I’m just thick, but the episode had nothing to do with any kind of warrior-like characteristics with any of the characters. Laval’s character development wasn’t really a warrior-specific quality either.