BIONICLE 2016 Discussion Topic

I never had any problem with G2. I loved it. I was actually very angry when it got cancelled, but that’s because I loved it so much. When I saw the end of JtO my anger actually died down, because it ended how I wanted it to.

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Talking about G2 is gonna end up being like talking about the Mass Effect 3 ending.

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They said they had no plans to continue it, though.
Unless they don’t want to hype up “G2.5” yet when it’s return date isn’t known yet, but I think it’s not even an idea they have.

I think it’s like Izotor said:
“If we ever need heroes again, the Toa will return.
But BIONICLE never will.”

~W12~

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Actually they said, they don’t have plans for a new construction line
But “the return of Bionicle cannot be ruled out”.

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Bionicle could return - but if it would, then the question would be ‘when?’ and ‘in what form?’

2017 - Unlikely
Not only would this be barely a year or so after the cancellation, it would also not make sense for Lego to announce a cancellation if they were just going to bring the theme back slightly altered within a year. In addition Winter 2017 is filled with The Lego Batman Movie and Summer 2017 is filled with The Lego Ninjago Movie so they would probably prioritise those.

2018 - Maybe
About 2 years would be enough time for them if they planned on altering aspects of the current generation and continuing it in some sort of off-shoot (G2.5?) Remember that some of the earlier art we saw for G2 was around 2012/2013 with the first sets being released in 2015 - so a 2 year gap would give them enough time. Plus with the likely profits from The Lego Batman Movie and the Lego Ninjago Movie they’d have some more cash to play with. The moved release date of Lego Movie 2 however may signal that Lego have plans for another theme to take the May 18, 2018 release date, which could make chances of a return less likely.

2019 - Less likely
At this stage we’re moving into the ‘Lego Movie 2’ territory. A cameo from a CCBS figure could happen, though i somehow doubt it would be Bionicle and would probably end up being Star Wars given the release of episode IX later that year. In terms of a potential return, the sequel to the popular Lego movie would probably be the main focus. This would be the last year where I’d think a G2.5 would be possible.

2020 and beyond - ?
At this stage we reach the unknown. Lego have quite a lot of plans in place including ‘A Billion Brick Race’. I’d expect a tie-in to the final ‘Fantastic Beasts’ film in that trilogy in 2020. Though beyond that a return of Bionicle depends on whether they are even going to attempt to target fans using the title. G2 seemed like they were trying to stick to the roots, or at least, that’s the impression they were trying to portray. At this stage a G2.5 would be very unlikely and we’d be looking more at a G3 that would likely be completely separate, perhaps even with an entirely different set of Toa and a different villain to Makuta

I get the feeling they are saying that because they didn’t expect the fan backlash after the cancellation. Even if its a smaller group of fans than before, bad publicity is still bad publicity and giving them hope in Lego’s view might prevent them from getting too mad or upset about the cancellation.

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I can’t see them being that tone deaf. I mean, with all the agitating that some of the community has done over the years to bring back the line, surely they would have expected that there would be general dissatisfaction once it was ended again?

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[quote=“DuplexBeGreat, post:32178, topic:15529”]
I can’t see them being that tone deaf. I mean, with all the agitating that some of the community has done over the years to bring back the line, surely they would have expected that there would be general dissatisfaction once it was ended again?
[/quote] I can see them being exactly that tone deaf. Especially with the small but loud minority of people devoting their lives to expressing their displeasure with G2’s existence, as if it were a stain on G1’s lore. As a community we could see that they were just a small group of pessimistic fuddy duddys. LEGO on the other hand sees it from the same perspective that a parent sees when a fight between siblings breaks out. They don’t know who started what, they don’t care what caused it, they’re just going to have the last say in it. LEGO could have very well interpreted that small but loud negative backlash as a failure for their revived theme.

On the other hand they wouldn’t have made a statement if they didn’t think there was a large enough fanbase. Look at several other past LEGO themes. :stuck_out_tongue:

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If Bionicle is going to come back its going to be a revamp like what power miners was to rock raiders.

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I wonder if we’ll see a DVD release of the complete ‘Journey To One’?

In addition, anyone heard anything about the third Bionicle comic. The second is released more places during this month and wondering if it advertises the third.

Personally I’d call ‘Power Miners’ a spiritual successor rather than a revamp or reboot.

It took the core aspect of ‘miners fighting underground monsters’ and didn’t really adapt a lot of the other aspects of Rock Raiders such as the concerns for survival or the idea of them being stranded.

A future Bionicle theme may simply take the core concept ‘Bionic heroes fighting villains’ and play with it, similar to how Hero Factory was likely created using the same basic concepts.

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its funny how the Power Miners vehicles actualy looks like something that could have been used in Rock Raiders, one would only need to change their colors (Power Miners have a more “comic book” like colors while Rock Raiders had a more darker color choise)

… have anyone else actualy noticed that Legends of Chima is actualy a part of the “crystal conflict” themes? just like Rock Raiders, Power Miners and many other themes like them, they are about different factions who all battle over the control of energy crystals.

Have you seen the awful bootleg DVDs someone posted on the 4chan Bionicle board? So far that’s the only thing anyone ever saw.

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I know this might be a dumb question, but did we even find out if they were bootleg? I heard they may be real, as stupid as they look.

There was something about Lego not paying attention when making a contract about the DVD publishing and then those two abominations of media were the result of it. So it’s that weird amalgamation of bootleg and original brand product.

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Oh, ok. That’s… weird to say the least. Really shows that they didn’t really care about Bionicle that much. Yes the story team and set makers did, but the higher ups, I guess not.

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(NOTE: This is just Speculation)
I was thinking about everything Makuta needed to open the portal, and I had this thought:

What if Makuta needed the powers of Balance and Chaos to open the Dark Portal?

To explain this idea, let’s look at what was used to open the Portal:

1. The pieces of the Forbidden Mask of Ultimate Power
2. Light from Agil and Ekimu
3. Umarak the Destroyer
4. The Mask of Control

Now let’s study them individually:
The Pieces of the FMoUP - representing Shadow

  • Because of the Legend, we can assume that the Forbidden Mask has the power of all six elements, which means it could’ve had the power of light if someone worthy had worn it. But since it was a corrupted Makuta who put on the Mask, the Mask became a Mask of Shadow.

The Uniters’ Crystals - representing Light

  • As those who have seen JtO know, Agil flew into Ekimu to create a powerful Light which supposably weakened the Destroyer. However, Umarak revealed to Ekimu that bathing the Destroyer in elemental light gave him the power he needed allowing him to control the elements (Uniter’s Weapons) and continue opening the Portal.

Umarak the Destroyer - representing Shadow and Light
When the Toa discovered that they couldn’t use their elements near the Portal, Umarak revealed that they had left the world of light and entered a world only of Shadow, which only the Destroyer could command.
Then, Agil flew into Ekimu to create a powerful Light which supposably weakened the Destroyer. However, Umarak revealed to Ekimu that he had given him the power of Light.
But near the ritual’s end, the Toa discovered that the Destroyer himself was the final piece to opening the portal.
When the Destroyer was shattered into pieces, the powers of Light and Shadow flew into the Portal.

The Mask of Control - representing Shadow
Because it had been used by Makuta (a being of shadow) to control Umarak the Destroyer (also the being of shadow), the Mask of Control became a Mask of Corruption. And as the Mask of Ultimate Power (when corrupted) became a Mask of Shadow when worn by Makuta, the Mask of Control became a Mask of Corruption when worn by Umarak.

So, Light+Shadow=Balance and Balance+Shadow (or Light) = Chaos

Now, assuming this was correct, the equation for opening the Portal goes as follows:
Balance+Chaos=Portal
(Ask questions if you’re confused.)

Obviously this isn’t 100% canon or anything, but what do you think of it?

Uh…since when does the combination of six elements create light? As far as we know, combining the six elements merely creates a rift between the “real world” and the Shadow Realm–likely due to the sheer power/energy created.

Okay, so looking at your previous “equations”, you’re saying this:

So basically…you mean that light + shadow = portal? :stuck_out_tongue:


It’s a nice theory, but it doesn’t make any sense. The Toa opened the portal (when they revived Ekimu) AND sealed the portal with only the six elements. Nothing else was needed.

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yeah, i feel the same, just because one combines the elements does not mean that one is creating a new one.

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I’m planning a Gali MOC using a painted version of Jyn Erso’s new chestpiece. Anyone have any similar ideas?

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Near the end of JTO, when the Toa discovered they were the elements, their powers combined to form a large beam of light to battle Makuta’s large beam of shadow.

LOL, not exactly.

Light+Shadow represents Balance.

Light+Shadow + Shadow represents Chaos.
So when balance and chaos come together, it ends up like this:
(LIGHT+SHADOW {= BALANCE}) + (Light+Shadow+Shadow{= CHAOS}) = The Dark Portal

[quote=“CryoTrooper, post:32188, topic:15529”] Toa opened the portal (when they revived Ekimu)
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But they can’t open the Dark Portal without the elements of Chaos.

However, I have an idea.
(SPECULATION)
Maybe because of the Shockwave of the FMoUP, Ekimu had the element of shadow in him (putting him in a deep sleep). However, when the Toa used their six elements, they created light in Ekimu, allowing light and shadow to come together to make the powers of BALANCE awaken him.

Not necessarily. While the Toa did create Light to banish Makuta, they also managed to rebound the powers of Shadow at him as well. Theoretically, this would create the BALANCE element need to shut the CHAOS Portal.

Thanks. :slight_smile:

Okay, yeah, it’s “light” in the literal sense that it was a form of electromagnetic radiation giving off photons on the visible light spectrum, but it wasn’t elemental Light. For all its convoluted craziness, JtO never suggested that the Toa combined to create Light.

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