This is true to an extent - it kinda works for characters who wear masks, for example, but for characters like Lariska, who don’t wear a mask, you can’t apply “different version” that easily if your head design looks entirely different from canon.
And that kinda is a major problem - and the one I’m fearing the most for myself…
Another point would be a canon design introducing specific details - like, say, wings. What are you gonna do if you never wanted that character to have wings (I know, that’s an unlikely extreme example, but things in this regard are a possibility).
That’s definitely true. Some of the characters we might get contests for are harder to apply the ‘this is the same character at a different point in time’ logic. Say for instance you made a Marendar MOC with one eye (which, of course, I haven’t) and the winning entry had two eyes, you’re on very shaky ground if you make the argument that both designs are the same character.
I shouldn’t even be surprised that controversy has suddenly flared up with the announcement of the second canon contest, where relatively little dissent existed during the polls between contests. Reminds me of interference during general election years but not midterms
I personally don’t understand the issue with any of this
If you wanna make a sand green entry, go right ahead. There’s nothing saying you can’t, and you’re probably better off for doing so. The criteria says grey/green, so I personally won’t be voting for anything that’s not grey/green.
Bit surprised by the single shade of green rule, but I’m down for it. Works if someone wants to make the MOC without (necessarily) painting pieces, but also works if someone does. Also completely down for the Staff of Artakha ruling.
Overall, really looking forward to this contest, especially after the improvements made from last time. Bring on the maker of things!
(Also, not that anyone asked my opinion, but… headcanon isn’t canon. End of story.)
Well, honestly when I saw the poll for choosing what the next contest was, I saw that one of the first reply was someone asking for a “no more contest” option then Eljay dismissing him outright, so I thought that was it.
If Eljay’s “not right now” came after that (or before, somewhere else maybe ?) then this is why I did not see it.
After that I lived my life then I started ranting about it a few days ago to some of my friends because I thought Eljay would never consider adding a “no more contest options” and I thought that revolting. So when I saw the video on youtube an hour ago, I came here. It’s just a coincidence that I was ranting about it a couple of days ago, actually.
Now I know that Eljay was not as dismissive as I thought on the matter so I have hope for the future.
I might be proven wrong, but from just preliminary LDD testing of my Artakha, sand green doesn’t look good as a primary colour. I’m hoping the artwork takes some liberties with the sand green colour or he’ll look like he’s wearing a Master Chief pyjama suit.
if you use it right.
Obviously, if you’re using literally only sand green, or doing sand green with something like red or another bright color, it ain’t gonna look good. But with more toned-down and neutral colors, it looks fantastic
Headcanon can be just as precious to someone as canon. As a writer of G1 stories, that’s certainly true for me. Just because it’s not communally approved canon doesn’t mean it’s not an important part of the community’s livelihood.
I won’t be entering the MOC portion of this contest, personally, as my titan-building skills are terrible–but I may very well enter the art portion, if I can figure out a way to digitally color that doesn’t bore me to tears halfway through the process…
I want the headcanon discussion over as much as everyone else, so this’ my last.
You can perfectly understand the canon, while being happy with your own alternative. If I think a character is the other gender, per say, I can understand other people don’t and be fine with it while having my own different take
Like with all of these contests except the Hagah, the mask will be designed later by someone else in the art contest, so I’d say do whatever’s easiest/most fun for you. If you really want to make a custom head, go for it, but if you feel like it’ll be too much work, then don’t worry about it. It only matters to you, and has little impact on the entry.
One thing I’m not to happy about is the “single shade of green” rule. I was planning to mix olive green and sand green together to give Artakha a worn and ancient appearance, but it looks like I’ll just have to choose one or the other now.
This is treading into ‘off-topic territory’, so this will hopefully be my last message on the subject. Suffice it to say, it’s a generalisation to assume this. There will always be people who have put stock in their ‘unofficial additions’ to canon and will be disheartened if those additions are challenged years or even a decade after they were made. This isn’t me arguing against the contests. I just want to make sure the stance of such people (including myself to some extent) aren’t discredited or misinterpreted. Not everyone will be able to reconcile the disparity between their headcanon and the new canon additions without feeling defeated or disheartened.
As an artist who plans to contribute to the art portion and a MOCer, I don’t think’d be that hard to allow multiple greens. I completely understand the idea to not allow multiple greens though.
I want to address this, but I feel it’s more relevant to the general Canon Contest topic than this one, so I’ll be going over there again.
Alright guys, please move any conversations unrelated to this specific contest to another topic. We have a general topic for discussions of the contests as a whole. Thank you.
This one’ll be fun. I’m especially looking forward to seeing MOCs with sand green and gunmetal color schemes. I should probably get cracking on Tuyet tho
