I’m also definitely not in favor of this one setting a fixed quota.
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Can’t we just canonize Ekimu as Arthaka? He’s a perfect fit.
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I can’t deny that I’m really surprised by the inclusion of the single shade of green rule. That is something I didn’t expect at all. Why does this rule exist? The only reason behind the decision I can imagine is an aesthetic preference but that goes against the creative freedom that you want to encourage so much.
And I don’t think the canon appearance or lore is a valid reason because when you describe Lewa Mata, Lehvak, Ehlek, Gresh an so on, they are usually vaguely described as the green characters or figures in the group, that’s it. It’s weird to be so specific as to say “various shades of green” or something like that.
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Well I mean, for one he’s blue, for two he’s pure CCBS, not a very intriguing build, for three this is just more fun I s’pose
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I agree completely, its a really strange rule. i already had a MOC that i was really happy with and cant enter specifically because of that rule and likely the “60 percent green” rule. I don’t have a lot of green parts to begin with and was really hoping to not have to buy new parts for this contest. the rules seem way more constrictive this time around.
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Pewku, Graalok, Gahdok, Roodaka, Gorast, Johmak, would like to have a word with you.
@Eljay does the mask have to match the shade of green we use?
Sand green, brick green, etc., can be difficult to replicate with paints. Is it fine if the mask doesn’t exactly match the color of the rest of the moc?
(I also recognize that the mask could just be grey or something, but I’d rather it be green)
And… This might be an odd question, but is it fine if all the green parts are painted, so long as they’re painted the same colour of green?
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Those are characters, not Toa elements. He’s referring to water, lightning and psionics. (Additionally ironically enough Plantlife was originally going to be female, and features blue.)
Anyways, on topic -
The 60% minimum rule feels far too high and kind of unfair towards those who already constructed their MOCs, especially given how short this entry period is. I get what the aim here is, with ‘majority of the armor’ being sand green. Why would he be pointed out as sand green if it was an accent color? But Idk, I think it should be lowered, to maybe 50 if not 40.
If it has any meaning; Avak was referred to as the tan Piraka, I believe?
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The rules allow it, but I don’t think many people have the desire to do it with so many pieces or have the time to collect them, especially when they only allow one shade of green.
I assumed he was talking about lariska being teal (since he said it was ‘unfitting’)
But, reading his post again, I might have misinterpreted it.
Why not just make it so that the moc can be any colour, primarily one of course, and then the artwork changes it to sand green for the official ilustration, that way is not as restrictive.
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Someone make statue Artahka.
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That would allow my dreams of a pink artakha to come true…
But seriously, that seems too much. We already have to “imagine” that a green Moc is actually a sand green character; it’d be even more ridiculous if, say, a red moc was supposed to represent a green character.
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So, just to clarify, all entries should be linked here, correct?
And the tittle format should be
insert MOC name (Canon Contest #2: Meet the Maker)
Also, how do we qualify 60%? I tried to use as much sand green as I could, but it’s mostly located in the arms and legs.
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right, the art is already changing all green to sand green, why does it even matter if my moc uses both mata and metru?
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that would be awesome haha, well they said that the moc can be any shade of green and that the artwork will change it to sand green anyway, so if that is the case I dont see a problem with the moc being any colour.
are you supposed to eyeball the percentage of color ratio? That doesn’t seem ike something which can’t be completely arbitrarily gaged
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From what I was told earlier, yeah. I would imagine theres a decent grace-area for how much that means as long as you aim for around there
I have a serious problem with that 60% lower limit. Plenty of that is self-serving I’ll say straight up, as this came without any warning whatsoever and I’ve had a moc in the work that now risks being disqualified. But there’s a wider problem with the coloring rules as a whole here. For purist moccists, ie the majority of entrants, there’s been a long recognition here and elsewhere that “grey-green” lego colors like sand green are obstructively rare in constraction parts and many were planning to supplement it with more common greens. To now prevent that and also maintain a hard coloring cap with no warning, in a contest for one of the largest mocs (ie highest parts count) that’s a week shorter than the last one is…just off. These are the kind of hard requirements that should have been given to people before the start of the contest. There are reasonable expectations for how people should prepare for moc contests whether researching characters and shopping for parts, planning their designs. But these rules are a specificity that goes beyond what few story quotes people had on Artakha and should have expected. Springing it now at the start of an even shorter contest is seriously not cool.
And the coloring lower limit especially seems like something that should be a guideline rather than a hard rule, similar to how toa heights are given 9in as a guideline. The logic behind more ambiguous decisions of moc making like how much of one color or another needs to be there have so far been left to an elegant solution - let voters be the quality control, put the risk on the entrant. I hope ttv will consider doing the same here.
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Wait, is it a cap? I thought it meant at least. If it’s a cap that’s absolutely ridiculous
@Eljay can we get some clarification?
I meant lower limit, not cap.
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