BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

That wasn’t a rule for Helryx, and I don’t think it should be a rule for any other contests.

Painted entries are unlikely to win, anyway, in my opinion (A majority of entries from the first 2 contests didn’t use painted pieces, and the winners didn’t use painted pieces either)

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plays taps for WholesomeGadunka’s Artakha

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Ack, my heart. Don’t remind me.

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I’d heavily favor Metru blue and no metallic armor. If there is a secondary color, I think black would work well. But I’m not exactly sure there is a “best” color scheme for Tuyet. I’m interested to see what people enter in the contest.

It could be, but it could also not be. I don’t think it’s terribly sexualized. It’s more body-shaping than anything on that MOC.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Nuvaboobs have been specifically banned. Each potentially sexualized construction is supposed to be dealt with on an individual basis.

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This is technically true. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen nuva armor used “tastefully” as you say, though. There are precious few feminine MOCs that I’ve seen that actually make use of the massive grey area between sexualized and androgynous, and those that do have never used something so exaggerated as nuva armor.

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I think the Helryx MOC that CMO linked is decently tasteful. I’d also point you towards this Helryx, which, if you ask me, is pretty much as unobtrusive as you can get with Nuva armor on the chest.

This is a big one for me. I really don’t like when metallics take away from the natural Elemental colour scheme, and it would be especially weird if we followed up determining Gaaki’s “elite” colour scheme with another Toa with the exact same colour scheme. I also agree with Metru blue.

As for secondary colour, my preferred choice for Tuyet is none. I can’t say why, but I’ve always imagined Tuyet as being absolutely pure blue.

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You could make the same argument about 3D pieces, that restrict creator freedom, but they have been restricted in all the entries (with excpetion of the mask and weapon). This is not a MOC contest, and while there no reason in canon for not having painted pieces, since she’ll become an official representation, many people will try to replicate her and being obligated to paint a Lego piece is a draw back.

And I guess no titan Tuyet would win, but I still believe that will be mandated to have a “Toa size” (Takanuva was big just in Karda Nui and Toa Mata Nui isn’t canon). Just because it’s less likely, it won’t mean that it couldn’t happend. Besides, for someone not checking every piece, is hard to tell in a render if the pieces exist in those colors.

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If you have to ask permission to make something look tasteful, you probably weren’t going to make it look tasteful.

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So, by your logic, we can require people to only use the select number of teal pieces (many of which are exceedingly rare) for Lariska, otherwise they aren’t allowed to enter the contest?

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No, that why I said that rule should apply for Tuyet (and I also think the same for Nidhiki). I never mentioned Lariska. Lariska is different, she has an especific and rare color, so painting should be allowed. But blue and green are very common, especially since it could be any of the variation of those colors.

I wouldn’t said no to metallic colors. For example this Helryx entry use metallic blue, but it blends very well without give her a Nuva or Hagah look.

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I second you there, actually. If there is a secondary color, I’d rather it were black, but if there doesn’t have to me, none would be better.

I’m guessing this is aimed at my last post…? The point is that you can make something look tasteful without asking permission first. As always, one can make a curvy female MOC without cramming it full of sexualization.

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wait,
How was the current design of mask of Psychometry recognized as Canon?
I don’t know because I wasn’t here when Helryx contest was held.
Was there mask contest after Helryx contest?
Then could there be mask of Intangibility contest?

Honestly that could make for a great Tuyet

No. The mask was designed as part of the final art. At that point, it was a mask contest with emphasis on stylization of the original moc, a compromise to make BS01 happy.

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I think a curvy female moc is asking for a big argument, especially considering there’s no reason for a canon bonkle to have curves.

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That’s at least still Elementally coloured. I should specify non-Elemental/generic metallics; I prefer Toa to be as colourful as possible, not hiding colour underneath colourless metal. (Yeah, I know there are some Elements whose colours schemes are generic colours; this isn’t about them)

After the Helryx MOC Contest, there was an Art Contest in which artists were instructed to replicate the winning MOC in their own stylization except for the mask, which they were to replace with a custom mask which would become canon.

I suspect that the Art Contest would have happened anyways even if BS01 was cool with 3d printed parts, since a fully canon MOC would have required a custom mask, which TTV has said they would never make mandatory.

The only difference would be that the MOC would also be official.

EDIT: I’m just going to bring this discussion over here:

I’m not sure, but I was under the impression that the Hagah had removed and replaced their natural armour with the metallic armour, not simply put it over top.

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Excuse me, somehow it was written in reply.

Anyway, there will be arguments because the range of sexual expression is ambiguous.
In particular, there must be some complaints about banning the build method of official set(i.e. roodaka)

A reminder, we were reminded to stop this discussion point and it has came up several times since that warning. So. Back to color schemes or literally anything else?

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Toa Hagah.

As it stands right now, we’re kind of close to a perfect colour split; Gold Bomonga and Silver Gaaki seem quite likely, as does Blue Kualus. Unless the artists decide to go for unique colours for everyone, we’ll probably have a 2/2/2 split or a 3/3 split, which means we need at least one gold and one silver Hagah to come out of these contests.

So that brings me to my question: if we already have two Hagah with gold and silver as frontrunner colours, why do so many people care about changing those colours? I’ve seen a lot of comments on the Bomonga and Gaaki polls saying something along the lines of “I really like this entry, but I didn’t vote for it because the colour is locked”. Why? Can’t we just accept those two as having those colours, and then use Kualus and Pouks to balance out the third colour? (Or match the two existing colours, I suppose)

I guess this really ties into a more general question that I have about the colour changing: would you prefer that the changes be kept to a minimum just to reach the nearest natural colour balance, or do you want the artists to have complete creative control over all four colours?

Because to me, the colour change was meant as more of an emergency measure to change one or two Hagah to fix colour balance, with the original results being adhered to as closely as possible.

(Just to be clear, I’m not trying to suggest this as a rule, it’s just my mindset going into the next round)

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Generally, I trust artists to handle the colors responsibly. And even if one or two artists decide to go crazy with them, the community will decide.

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