BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

[Takutanuva]

I mean it will probably be allowed, but it may cost you the vote of those voting purist style for consistency

[Huemus]

@TheJerminator

but then the MOC shield is a placeholder to be replaced with the “official” shape in the Art.

If the art will have a Hagah shield, why don’t demand it in the MOC? Personally, I woudn’t bother if the shields were made different in canon, as long as they were similar to Norik/Iruini shield, having the Rhotuka launcher, and a place to put a second Rhotuka.

@TheJerminator

(Also, what limitations will be on the spears? I know that any spearhead is allowed [even 3d printed, as far as I know], but what about the shaft? Does it have to be the same length and Norik and Iruini’s? Could there be addons, such as Technic tubing or bushings, to make it thicker?)

I don’t think is necessary to have the same length. Maybe some Hagah take their spear in more attacking position, with a 16+8 axle intead of a 12+12. It could be shorter or larger as long as they look like a spear. About making them thicker, I would oppose it, since they are spear, the shaft should be thin.

[TheJerminator]

@Huemus

why don’t demand it in the MOC?

Because that then limits people to silver and flat dark gold for the Hagah, unless they want to paint the piece.

[Kodiak]

@Huemus

If the art will have a Hagah shield, why don’t demand it in the MOC?

Because the shield only comes in two colors and painting pieces would probably put one at a disadvantage. Otherwise Gadunka’s Artakha would’ve won, but I digress.

For example, my Bomonga and Kualus are gunmetal (partially due to Bomonga’s dark grey spinner) and metallic blue but I’m worried that a painted shield will weigh me down too much in comparison to a brickbuilt one that could easily be replaced during the art.

[Toa-of-Snow]

For what it’s worth, I’d much rather vote for a single painted Hagah shield than one that breaks consistency with the others.

[Takutanuva]

@Kodiak

Because the shield only comes in two colors and painting pieces would probably put one at a disadvantage. Otherwise Gadunka’s Artakha would’ve won, but I digress

I didn’t vote for Gadunka’s but not because of the paint. Just because some of the people who did not vote for it said that did not mean all did. I’d still vote for a painted piece. I am personally more concerned about the moc having an aesthetic in line that does not stick out in a very apparent manner.

[TheJerminator]

@Kodiak

Otherwise Gadunka’s Artakha would’ve won, but I digress.

The problem wasn’t the paint; the problem was the fact that the colours didn’t really match the description.

[Racie02]

Even if the shields are different on the moc, they’ll be the same as norik and iruini on the art.

[TheJerminator]

*Hopefully

That’s what we’re proposing right now, but it’s not official.

[Wolk]

@Eljay

Eventually, the entry in question will need to be represented with the proper Hagah shield piece, so you’re welcome to MOC your own in the meantime. But the final artwork will need to show it.

Way back Eljay did say that the art would beed to have the actual Hagah shield, and that the MOC is fine using a placeholder. (Although I don’t know if that still stands.)

[Toa-of-Snow]

@Racie02

Even if the shields are different on the moc, they’ll be the same as norik and iruini on the art.

I know. Doesn’t affect my voting preferences. I’d rather have the MoC look as canon as possible (even though I’m fully aware it’s not), rather than just have it be easy to replicate at the cost of accuracy.

But I’ll clarify that I’m just referring to my own tastes in voting, here - I don’t think the rules should necessarily be geared to reflect the sentiment I’ve just expressed.

[Willess12]

I, uh, literally said that same thing, ten posts ago

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@Toa-of-Snow

I’d rather have the MoC look as canon as possible (even though I’m fully aware it’s not), rather than just have it be easy to replicate at the cost of accuracy.

To each their own; I’ll be voting for my favorite moc, and acknowledging the shield as the placeholder that it is.
Actually, I’d argue that mocs should be allowed to leave off the shield entirely, by the same logic that Artakha/Hoseryx mocs were allowed to not even include a mask. Especially since we already know what it will look like.

[Voxovan]

@CMO

(Also, is Lego in the habit of slipping in these kind of correction notes? First I’ve ever heard of it.)

I know they do that when a set includes an incorrect or a different piece, I remember my Matoro Inika had a correction note because he included a different axle piece used in the Zamor launcher.

[Huemus]

Will the entries be for each Toa or the entire team? If it is the latter, the design could work in pairs (like Norik and Iruini), and that way the shields could be differents (but similar), without breaking the team aspect.

It would be interesting if they are different as the Toa Nuva, someone with a hump and someone with an inverted torso.

[Kodiak]

@Huemus

Will the entries be for each Toa or the entire team?

Thankfully, they’re almost certainly going to to allow people to submit at least one instead of requiring them to build and submit all four. Otherwise, you’ll have people deciding between which combo they can tolerate the most. It’s impossible for one person to have the best representation of four characters.

Part of the reason why I proposed brickbuilt shields earlier is to appease purists who really don’t want painted pieces to win. There’s a pretty good chance the shield will be changed into a normal hagah shield in the artwork.

[Toa-of-Snow]

@Kodiak

Thankfully, they’re almost certainly going to to allow people to submit at least one instead of requiring them to build and submit all four. Otherwise, you’ll have people deciding between which combo they can tolerate the most. It’s impossible for one person to have the best representation of four characters.

Won’t the way people vote be influenced by what the rest of the Hagah look like? Imagine getting 5/6 looking super purist and then people vote in some super eccentric build for Bomonga in the final poll, and he doesn’t match the others at all.

[TheJerminator]

@Toa-of-Snow

Won’t the way people vote be influenced by what the rest of the Hagah look like?

Yes? Isn’t that the point of having them separately, so that people can pick and choose the ones that look best together?

@Toa-of-Snow

Imagine getting 5/6 looking super purist and then people vote in some super eccentric build for Bomonga in the final poll, and he doesn’t match the others at all.

While this could theoretically happen, you also have to remember that it’s the exact same people voting in all four contests (more or less); people’s priorities and preferences should remain mostly the same for all four.

[Huemus]

But for knowing how they will look together, you should know which one of each win. Will the contest run separately (one month Bomonga, the next Gaaki, and so on)?

If not, maybe the one you think that will win, won’t. And then you don’t have that coesive looks for the team. Now, since they probably will be clone sets, is hard to that to happend.

[KanohiReqi]

Question: Are gold Kualus and Gaaki ok or would bronze a better option?

[Atobe_Brick]

I imagine that gold Kualus and Gaaki would be allowed (that’s just my prediction; It hasn’t been confirmed yet), but a lot of people, including myself, would rather them not have those colors.