I know. that is simply my stance. You’re free to disagree, though you won’t change my opinion.
I will say, the Kraahkan likely won’t be on the final moc. I’ll probably use Lhikan’s hau
That’s literally the definition of “Metru build.” What do you think Metru March is?
A tuatara looks just like a lizard. Ergo, it is a lizard.
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That’s not how it works. The term has do with how something is built, not because “it looks exactly like X because I said so dude trust me” and non-existing connections.
Next you’re going to say that Krakua and Kiini with Vakama’s arms are metru builds.
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To be fair, I completely forgot about this. This actually brings up a good point. It there some kind of semi-official “Metru March rulebook”? If so, we should just use that.
If not, there should still be some pretty obvious “unspoken rules” just from looking at the Metru March builds. Then it’s just a matter of justifying unspoken rules in an official canon contest.
Metru builds are builds that use the metru torso as a torso. It’s been an unspoken rule up until now because that seemed like a pretty obvious thing, but I guess not.
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Pretty much. Don’t forget similar proportions as well.
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Here’s a like to a quick imgur album I just made to show off how i usually attach the nuva chest armor to a metru build: Nuva chest armor on a metru build. - Album on Imgur
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How do you define an Inika build? A build that uses the specific Inika torso piece as the torso?
If so, is the Piraka build technically an Inika build as well? It doesn’t use the Inika torso, but what it does use is near exact same proportions and connection points.
Or an even more extreme outlier, how about Kongu Mahri and Pohatu Phantoka?
My point being, even if you do not consider these other builds to be technically “Inika”, they are used in characters who are supposed to look the same or similar to characters that do use a true Inika build.
If the Piraka and Kongu builds can technically be “Inika”, then I see no reason why a custom build that matches the proportions and style of the Metru build well enough can’t be labeled as one.
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That a good idea. Personally, for the Hagah, I’m not looking forward seen crazy and complex MOCs, but something that looks like Norik and Iruini. If someone want to use a different torso, I most probably won’t vote for them.
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You do know there’s a difference between prefab torsos and custom ones, right? Your argument would be more consistent if you were talking about a custom torso that supposedly resembles an inika build, no? Kongu and the Piraka’s torsos are prefabs.
Honestly, I’m surprised to hear this coming from a purist like you.
The definition of an Inika build, in my opinion, is very similar to the definition of a Metru build: To be considered an Inika build, the character must use the Inika torso, and have similar proportions and points of articulation to the toa Inika. The Piraka and Kongu/Pohatu have modified Inika builds.
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Literally everything said here was said two weeks ago, so I’m just going to post what ended the debate two weeks ago.
So yes, @Willess12’s moc is a Metru build (or should I say a mettur build?)
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There is a way to nicely put a Nuva torso armor on a Metru torso if you take out the gears and fix an axel on the back. You can get pretty creative with that piece, I’d hardly consider it restrictive.
Given that Greg said explicitly that it is a Metru build, I think requiring that one torso piece isn’t unreasonable. It could even be painted to allow for more freedom. Also, if we don’t require that one piece, we could be stuck in an infinite loop about what exactly defines a Metru build. Requiring this piece is an objective way to keep it a Metru build while allowing for the most freedom.
For a lot of people “Inika Build” is more of an umbrella term used to describe the inika/piraka builds and that whole general system of build that was used from 06-09. The metru build, on the other hand, has only ever been the metru build. The Hagah introduced different limbs and added armor, but the core build remained the same. That’s a pretty big difference.
tl;dr the “inika build” is more of a system, whereas the metru build is an actual build.
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Exactly. It’s an objective system that prevents people from making non-existing connections, useful idiots gobbling it up, and makes TTV’s job with filtering through entries easier.
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I should specify, I think that outside of that single torso piece, there should be more freedom regarding the rest of the build, given that the proportions are reasonable.
Yes, I agree. As someone with what’s approaching 100 metru build mocs under his belt, there’s a lot you can do with the build while still sticking to what makes it a metru build. That being the same torso and general proportions.
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I don’t understand the hostility. I didn’t take a definite stance. I simply asked an open ended question on what can be considered an Inika build, and IF Piraka build and Kongu Mahri’s build can fall under that, then it must be about proportions of the build more than anything. If so, then a custom build matching the proportions of a Metru build can be called a Metru build as well. However, if a majority of people do not consider the Piraka build as Inika build, then this doesn’t apply.
The issue with this comparison again stems from the “inika build” being more of a system of builds (which personally I think the kongu build only barely fits with), whereas the metru build has always and only ever been the same single build.
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