Please do. My understanding of the debate here is going nowhere.
In short: Freedom.
Before the contests, anything labeled Helryx or Artakha that adhered to the information we had on them was Helryx/Artakha in accordance with canon if you chose.
This is now no longer the case. Without for example the winning mask designs, it is now pretty much impossible to canon-compliantly represent these characters.
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Itās not impossible to represent these characters canon-compliantly. In fact, they have been represented nearly completely canon-compliantly, in the models that the art is based on.
Without Jallerās Arthron you canāt represent him canon-compliantly. Whatās your point here?
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The tricky thing with Tuyet is that she wielded different items at different points in the story.
In The Many Deaths of Toa Tuyet, she had her Barbed Broadsword and the Nui Stone. Then, afterwards, she had Nui Stone fragments in her armour, but no sword. Finally, in her appearance in Reign of Shadows, she had a whole Nui Stone, but no shards or sword.
I feel like it would be tricky to restrict the contest to present-only Tuyet, given that her sword and the shards that were once in her armour are the only things we really know about her appearance, and she currently has neither. At the very least, we should aim for the same time period as the Toa Nidhiki contest, so that she can have her sword.
As for the idea of canonizing the appearance of the Nui Stone at all: in theory, Iād say itās an important enough object to warrant its own contest, like the Staff of Artakha. In practice, thoughā¦ itās a red lump of rock. I can say with a fair degree of certainty that, if the Nui Stone had ever been shown 10 years ago, it would have been drawn differently by every artist who touched it.
I donāt think we need art for the Nui Stone to know what it looks like so much as just to have something with the stamp of approval to replace the No Image on BS01. Whether itās a solo image, in Tuyetās hand, or in her armour in pieces doesnāt really matter.
I suspect that this is just another case of flowery language for āblackā, though Iām sure you wouldnāt get disqualified for taking it literally.
Personally, Iām hoping that we can avoid random metallics if possible; I generally prefer for Toa to be really colourful, rather than just a bare metal look (Of course, that doesnāt apply to Toa with metallics as part of their āofficialā Elemental colour scheme, like Zaria). That also means Iād like no silver on Nidhiki, though that might actually be a rule.
My personal vision for Tuyet is just Metru blue, absolutely everywhere. No filler colours whatsoever.
The difference here is that the Bionicle canon isnāt just your favoured possession; itās everyoneās in the community. If the collective āownersā of the Bionicle canon can agree that shattering the possession and replacing it is the way to go, then so be it.
This still applies even if you remove the word ācontestsā.
Why are you questioning this canon, but not any past canon?
Jallerās Arthron is purist, the new masks arenāt.
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I still donāt understand what this is meant to mean.
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guys I just want to have a discussion about colors
please I donāt want to once again hear about how the canon contests need to die because trampling headcanons
weāve had this debate and nobody wins
So uh
Varian!
Since people have just generally accepted Orde is metru blue and pearl gold, maybe itād be interesting to see a sand blue/old gold or light blue/metallic gold Varian? Even with preestablished color schemes thereās a lot of room to work.
Same with Zaria; bronze and burnt orange is an extremely tacky color scheme, but Iām curious to see if it could be implemented well.
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Well, we know her mask is Azure, at least. Though thereās no reason she canāt have multiple shades of blue.
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As a kid I always thought she was purple. With Pridak blades on her elbows. But that was before I knew about the Psionics color scheme.
That may be the same deal with āebonyā and āemeraldā (i.e. flowery language Greg likes to use)
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A lot of people in the Bionicle community, and really the larger Lego community in general, prefer to only use existing official Lego parts. This could be out of a sense of brand loyalty, commitment to quality, or just the challenge of designing something within the limits of the Lego palette.
Whatever the reason, many people are hesitant to use unofficial parts in their builds. This preference makes it difficult or impossible to recreate the new canon designs as physical models, which is part of @Gilahuās issue with these contests.
Iām not so sure about that; I think Metru blue might go better with the darker gold, both of which fit Ordeās personality.
I think Iād prefer to use the lighter gold (and a lighter blue) on Varian.
Whatever happens, I just hope they have different colour schemes, shade-wise.
Legoās made a lot of blues. Even if we only limit ourselves to the shades in which Bionicle parts have been made, thereās still plenty of options:
And that doesnāt even touch the possibility of translucent blue armour.
Heās gunmetal, not bronze:
A much better combination.
If Wikipedia is to be trusted, āazureā is pretty broad:
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My bad! I missed that sentence entirely 
Re:Varian, she was described as Azure but given when that was, I doubt it is reference to the Lego color, rather just āfancy blueā; nonetheless Iād stray away from violets or darker blues. Iād go for blue, dark azure, med. blue, or med. azure. Ultimately though the big take-away is that the mask itself is blue, and not gold.
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I donāt want to keep talking about this knowing itās been talked to death but I want to point out that even if the canonical mask is not an official part, thatās still the canon mask.
Well, whoever wrote it.
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Yes. But we had no choice here, and it was done while Bionicle was still very much active. Both of which are not the case now, and the latter hasnāt been the case for 11 years. 11 years filled with canon-compliant headcanons.
Who says I donāt? The main difference, as said, is that this time around thereās a choice.
To me, that is a form of oppression, as it is not a necessary thing and disregards what individuals hold dear. The price paid to satisfy the curiosity of some is the freedom of those who care the most.
But I guess we can leave this again for today. With the Hagah contest (unfortunately) under way, the time to bring up the topic of continuation polls and associated discussion again properly is during the final part of the Hagah art voting, I suppose.
Ah. Biosector said the color range was pretty wide; I didnāt know his was specified.
The only time translucent pieces have ever been used on Toa is as the structure or āskeletonā of the build; Toa Inika and Toa Mahri builds used this in particular. However if the Gold is delegated to armor a translucent blue might work well for the base color.
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I still really donāt understand what youāre trying to say. The current depictions of Helryx and Artakha are canon-compliant.
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Unlike Emerald and Ebony, Azure is generally used to refer to a specific Lego color. Also so far, weāve not had a case of a character described as one color with a wildly different color. Correct me if Iām wrong, weāve never had a character described as Emerald who was actually lime green, or Ebony who was actually grey.
I mean, technically thereās Gali Mataās mask.
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In that case, Nidhiki should be banned using lime (as primary), as emerald generally has been used for Metru green.
Given that Helryx/Artakha are art in their canon forms (and use masks new to the art), theyāre not much different than Nikila or Karzahni in my eyes.
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Are azure and blue that different? I always took them to be nearly synonymous.
This count? (To be clear, I mean his limbs, not Phantoka Lewa)
@KDNX Here you go. One of several headcanon discussions started here. Iād advise people have a read of that discussion before considering continuing it.
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