BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

[TheJerminator]

@RiderBD

If cut hoses match the official size and color, it will eventually be a matter of conscience.
Because the only person who knows that the hose is cut is probably the one who used the hose.

@Eljay

@ToaFautann

So, is that a yes or a no for cutting flex tubes?

If you need a yes or no, then no. If you cut it to a LEGO length and can get away with it, then that’s fine.

[RiderBD]

Oh, thank you. It was a really ambiguous part, but now the question is resolved.

[synonymforexpd]

• opens TTV message boards
• sees this topic has 40+ unreads, maybe there’s an update
• it’s just the 50th argument over double’s bomonga breaking rules

[Seuss]

bro just grab some popcorn sit tight and weather through the argument storm

[KDNX]

This is a really nice and well-thought-out post. The rule-breaking on Double’s part goes further than just the shield, but that’s been litigated and relitigated ad nauseam at this point so it doesn’t warrant further discussion. Overall, I agree with pretty much everything you said here. The biggest, biggest issue with these contests is that there appears to be a single person moderating hundreds of entries, and they are extremely opaque about the goings-on behind the scenes. I mentioned above, it took a riot to get TTV to comment on the rule-breaking Bomonga, because we didn’t know how to contact the contest moderator about it. All we could do was raise a stink and hope that Eljay noticed. Currently, we’re in another period of radio silence on the contest front. Both of these issues come down to a lack of transparency, and, of course, the fact that there’s been a single moderator this whole time. We need more mods, more people vetting what is canon and is not canon, and we need more transparency. There’s been a document going around on Discord that vets all the art contest entries in the same style as this post from Eljay and it really shows just how far having more mods can go. Something like only 5 of the entries are actually compliant to all the rules if you hold them to the same standard that Eljay held “Time Would Bring Transformations” to. I’ve heard from the person that made the document that it took them an afternoon to do it. If Eljay does not have the time to moderate these entries, that is okay! He just needs to tell us and get some help with it.

[Axelford]

@KDNX

more transparency .

I said this a while ago and agree with it. I think we all, regardless of opinion, want more transparency moving forward.

@Tarkur

I’m really trying to be respectful here and give constructive feedback to you guys.

And you are! Welcome back, you have brought out some really good points.

So, I guess when they come back we just need to get their attention and show a unified stand.

[Seuss]

@Axelford

So, I guess when they come back we just need to get their attention and show a unified stand.

So do you guys remember the end of Biocraft when they spammed Mathew Nui until he banned Markuta?

(this is joke please don’t actually spam Eljay’s dm’s lol)

[Racie02]

@synonymforexpd

• opens TTV message boards
• sees this topic has 40+ unreads, maybe there’s an update
• ignores the 35 posts actually talking about ways to improve the contests and instead decides to complain about the five or so that brought up Bomonga

[synonymforexpd]

oh those posts are absolutely correct, i fully agree i just skimmed over them entirely after reading the millionth post on bomonga tbh

[Sabretooth]

Hey, do you mind sharing that document? I’m curious to see if mine holds up

Edit: Did the topic get nuked? I remember there being a lot of replies after this

[Lamentte]

@Sabretooth

Hey, do you mind sharing that document? I’m curious to see if mine holds up

here it is: dire

and yes the topic did get nuked. welcome to 1984

[Sabretooth]

That’s weird. Anyway, I’m torn between wanting the contest voting to resume immediately and selfishly wanting a grace period to fix the mistakes in my piece. Anyone else feel the same?

[Takutanuva]

Well to be fair, even if the comics were to be scrutinized in the same way as that document, most of the comics would fail to match their real set counterparts

[kaikue]

For what it’s worth, my understanding of the doc is that it’s less of a criticism of the entries and more of a criticism of the rules. Ideally there would have been moderation during the entry period itself, so entrants could have time to fix issues with their entries, but that didn’t really happen. At this point I think the fair thing is to allow voting on all the entries except the obviously rulebreaking ones where the artist really should have known better (major build changes, filtered Studio renders, plagiarism).

[Sabretooth]

That’s reassuring, it’s just the whole scarf debacle has me a tad worried. I’m not going to be mad if there is no grace period though, I dont necessarily think it’s owed.

[SirKeksalot]

Someone already went and made a poll for the art.

Hagah Art Prelims

Curious to see what happens.

[Seuss]

pfffft now just post the poll results in the ask greg topic and watch him aprove it before eljay comes back

(wait i think this came from reddit i retract my statement lol)

i feel a need to edit this and point out that actually doing this would be really really stupid

[KDNX]

Vote entry 9

[Tarkur]

I voted 16 as 1st, 14 as 2nd, 10 as 3rd all of them may change

Reasons:
Love 16
14 had the color match I wanted
10 did the comic artstyle route which I said I would vote on

[Seuss]

yeah 16 and 14 are nice ones. I like the artstyle of 10 but some of the masks seem a bit off idk. I like 3 its cute