They banded together under a leader with a common goal. What other criteria do you need that you feel that this team doesn’t meet?
The simultaneous contests wasn’t the reason the Hagah took so long.
This also isn’t the point. BS01 exists to document canon after it’s been determined, not affect it. We shouldn’t be deciding what images are or are not necessary based on BS01’s blank pages.
Even if you limit the ball joint to axial rotation to avoid stressing the parts, this “fix” still has the advantage of allowing independent arm rotation while having them both be attached to the gear function.
It can be built from scratch in the stud.io Part Designer tool.
I didn’t like that his chest armor was an illegal connection. Although the Nuva piece looks cool i think the best option the winner should’ve taken was a 3D printed modified version of it with a pin rod in the place of the original axle rod while a little bit down is placed a stud connector for the gray 3X axle rod, which Jaller 2007 has in his hand to hold the chain of his crab pet, to be connected in the upper/3rd axle hole of the Metru torso or something.
From my understanding they send the builds for approval as well but I may be wrong.
However Greg has also stated in the past that the sets, movies and comics are all artistic interpretations of each others but has himself shown a preference for the sets as being the main canonical apperance in his answers at least the earlier ones. I’ll provide some quotes for you in a bit if you want.
It’s also logical that the sets would be his main preference as its the clearest visual depiction he had while writting the books.
They did send the builds as well, but only for context (from my understanding).
I am aware of this, but it doesn’t necessarily apply here because, unlike the actual sets and earlier canonized models, these models were never made “official”.
Are they not approved just the same? Either way I’d say for this contest the arts details are certainly more canonical but the builds themselves are still canon.
Anyways here is the list of quotes:
Since UD is way diff than in the movie, and the original Makuta set, I assume that the UD set is non-canon?
By the way, in a former post on this chat, you had answered me this :
Q: “On BIONICLE movies, Kanohi restranscribe feelings of characters. Meanwhile, in your books, you suggest the face is under the Kanohi, and that he isn’t animated. Which version is canon?”
A: “Mine is, basically.”
And you reply here “all masks” in your answer, but the normal masks have never been expressed emotions in your books and you affirme this in the past. I’m confused ^^’
Both have to be considered official, they are simply different artistic approaches to the same story.
3)Of course, there were several different artistic interpretations, but there well is an official storyline, a canon version of facts, overhanging all the others in a canonical way, decided by yourself and the storyteam when BIONICLE was still active, right?
I see this as similar to Batman – there are countless different “official” versions of Batman’s look, and none is considered more or less canon than any other. It would be foolish of us to take the position that the comics were less canon than the movies, or vice versa, because it would devalue whichever one was less canon. It is simply different arttistic ways of conveying something based on the demands of the medium. Chat with Greg Farshtey | Page 302
An exception I found specifically related to the stars:
1 The Shattering was caused by the Element Lords attempts to use the EP Spring, which lead to the core of the planet exploding, Mata Nui’s mission was to go around the universe, observe societies so a massive war such as the Core War would not break out again, and then pull Spherus Magna back together, The Stars will be a part of the storyline, although their smaller size is like Titan Mata Nui’s: not canon. Teridax will be coming to Bara Magna (here’s how we get the Stars), Teridax’s destiny may or may not have been to take over Mata Nui’s body; Greg stated that the real question was whether one robot alone be able to pull three planets together. He could not discuss whether or not 2010 will be the last year of BIONICLE.
Well I was wondering how much of this is true.Also, if the stars are canon, but their size isn’t, does that also mean their form is non-canon as well? (Such as Tahu Mata, Silver Takanuva)Thank you for your time.
This post is quoting a Greg post but isn’t by the man himself
Which BIONICLE character looks is canon, the set from or movie form, like the Toa Metru in Legends of Metru Nui, how they looked?
There is no “closer to canon” really, you are talking about two different artistic interpretations of the same character. If I show you Frank Miller art of Batman and Gene Colan art of Batman, which is closer to canon? Official Greg Dialogue | Page 230
Would you say that that generally, the first 3 movies, with the integration or organic tissuie within the Proto components and armour, were most accurate representation of the characters as they actually appear within canon? I don’y necessarily mean in actual design (I appreciate Onua and Pohatu had body changes).
I don’t regard them as more accurate or less accurate, simply as different artistic interpretations of the characters. The movie version is the movie version, the toy version is the toy version, but same characters. Official Greg Dialogue | Page 262
Just for clarification, are sets the most canon representation of characters? (As opposed to movies, comics, etc.)
I consider sets to take precedence over movies, yes. But in general, it is simply different artistic interpretations of the same characters. Official Greg Discussion | Page 315
How long have you waited on the white screen? It might just be taking a super long time to load; I usually have to wait a few minutes, no matter what I’m running in the background.
Yeah I just decided to run it in the background while working on a model and it actually loaded. It said something about it not starting correctly and closed after a prompt
The only other Mangai that could realistically receive a contest is Naho. This is because, in spite of how little information we have on the other 8 Mangai versus the power trio, Naho has one critical piece of canonical information that her 7 remaining brothers don’t: a name. None of the others have names and none of the others can be given names because Greg no longer has a list of legally approved names (even if we provided names ourselves, they would still have to go through Lego’s legal team, which would probably be a hassle); but even if that weren’t an issue, those contests would be less “let’s give an official appearance to this character” and more “let’s canonize OCs.”
While I would love to see Naho wear a Huna, it seems odd neither Lhikan or Nidhiki mentioned or mocked Vakama not using his Invisibility.
…Maybe a Southern Huna for Naho?
Just like in Biosector01 there’s a ‘‘G2’’ branch, there could be a ‘‘Fanon G1’’ branch. A place where all fan-liked or most voted additions to canon are sent. Think of it as a safe and legal branch for us fans to keep the world of Bionicle expanding until LEGO decides to give it an official continuity. Leaving the main G1 branch exclusive to them for changes and adittions.
I could argue this point, but I think it’s just gonna be super subjective. All I can say is that they existed for thousands of years – one of them since the dawn of the universe – and only worked together for one mission. At least one of them has his own team. They’re as much of a “team” as Tahu, Kopeke, Johmak, Krahka, Lariskat, and Guardian.
It wasn’t the only reason, but it was a factor. Sure, there were other factors, like the endless torso debates and irl factors, but auditing 400 entries for the moc contests massively delayed the polls, and the art got an extension.
The group shot art existed for two reasons:
To provide an opportunity to balance the mettalic armour, masks, and spears.
To provide a picture for the team as a whole (hence why Norik and Iruini were required).
Neither of these apply to the TYQ Toa. They don’t have a team page, and they don’t have special armour, so why mandate a group shot when the last group shot contest had the worst turnout of all of them?
It’s the only mask on the Toa Mangai that was also on the Toa Metru (that we know of), so not recognizing a mask he fought beside for thousands of years seems kind of odd. Although it also depends on how close Naho was with the group. But even Nidhiki would’ve said something, considering the DHs killed Naho quite recently.
A southern Huna fixes this because neither knew the original shape.
