At the end of the day, this all comes down to one thing for me. If he were doing nothing but post concept art and wax lyrical, Faber wouldn’t need to explain himself at all. But he’s doing more; he’s actively asking for ‘support’. He’s used the word verbatim on more than one occasion. His social media presence is blatantly trying to drum up support for whatever nebulous goal he has. For that reason alone, he really ought to offer an explanation.
I personally see it like crowdfunding. If you tried to get support on a crowdfunding sight, you’d get laughed out the door if you refused to even describe what it was you were planning to create. Now, Faber isn’t asking for money of course, which is presumably why so many people are content to let him continue with no commitments of any kind from his end. However, he still asks repeatedly for ‘support’.
He refuses to even outline what this support entails, but he’s asking for it nonetheless. If he’s going to ask that of us, it’s only fair that we ask in return “okay, what are we supporting?”
I know people are just going to tell me to watch it myself (and I probably should as it’s at least tangentially pertinent to the topic), but does anyone have the SparkNotes version of what he said in that talk?
Well said, I think this is perfectly fine and good. I’d just advise people to not “crowdfund” something if they don’t know what it is in the first place. That being said, it’s a very bad move on Faber’s part to do that. Doesn’t mean the anger towards him is ok though.
Oh god please no. I’m already having 'Nam flashbacks to the Sombra ARG back when I still foolishly believed Overwatch was going to do anything with its lore.
Arg’s can work if they’re done right. For example; look at the portal 2 and Batman the dark knight arg’s. (Inside a mind has some pretty good videos on them, I recommend you go check them out.)
I’m personally in the “I do not like ARGs” camp, but not because they’re inherently bad; I’m just inherently bad at them and thus don’t get any enjoyment out of them. They’re brilliant for those who have the right mindset; I had a friend in school who’d solved a community pokemon-related ARG within an amount of time that I can no longer remember and didn’t shut up about it for months because of how much he’d enjoyed it.
It’s about fifteen minutes long, so I slapped it on in the background and alt-tabbed when it sounded like he’d changed slide or did anything with the visuals. I’ll be editing in the slides as I go through, but what’s important is what is being said around those slides, and I’m not sure I could paraphrase it all too well.
From hereon, I’ll let you watch it for yourself, as he talks about the thing that brought us all here. Also do watch the first ~six minutes though, as I was just skipping through and there’s definitely a lot of contextual stuff you’ll want.
I lowkey would like an ARG, but only if it were to lead to something more long-term. ARGs are really awesome, but they’re one-time things.
*clears throat *
“I don’t know why we even need a Kopaka 3. Clearly, Kopaka 1 was the pinnacle of Kopaka and Kopaka 2 wasn’t advertised enough to be popular. It also didn’t have as much backstory as Kopaka 1. I hope we can just get more Kopaka 1.”
“NO WAY?! KOPAKA 3?! WOW, HE BETTER HAVE A SCOPE ON HIS MASK OR ELSE IT’S NOT KOPAKA! AND HE BETTER ALSO HAVE A SWORD AND SHIELD OR MAYBE IT’S OKAY IF HE HAS A SPEAR BECAUSE KOPAKA 1.2 HAD A SPEAR THING! BUT HE HAS TO HAVE A SHIELD!!”
“I wish it wasn’t Kopaka 3. Why do we even need a Kopaka 3? I think we should just be okay with Kopaka fan art. This whole thing just proves that we can’t ever let Kopaka rest in peace. At the very least, if you have to do something new with Kopaka, make it something different that encapsulates the spirit of Kopaka.”
If you’re the kind of person that agrees with CallanLoF, who has very publicly held a grudge against us for over 6 years, and will take any opportunity to paint us negatively, then I don’t think anyone can help you at that rate.
You have every opportunity to have a rational dialogue with everyone here, including us. If your defense is to quote the most irrational member of the BIONICLE community I can think of, then you’re ceasing said dialogue and have nothing of substance to add to this discussion.
While he is strawmanning the video very heavily, he does raise some points that I was thinking about during the second video while Meso was talking about the previous interview. I don’t have to be a “kind of person” to see that he has valid points; society is built on compromise and this sort of partisan community drama is why I tend to avoid the larger Bionicle community.
