Lariska, the Wise, Wonderful, and Gloriously Homicidal

I hesitate to dispute this since I don’t want to make this topic devolve into an “argue past one another” match, but the 2008 post has the advantage of being earlier, and it’s the general opinion of many lore scholars that earlier answers take precedence. Also, Lariska does not need to be huge to be a feared Dark Hunter - Shadow Stealer is tiny, and he’s pretty well-feared. A Toa-sized Lariska is easily believable, especially given her gymnastic abilities - it makes more sense if she’s an average size.

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First of all, as @KDNX said, earlier answers generally take precedence. Greg himself has said this, as he sometimes forgets previous details, and would rather not overwrite existing canon.

Second, why do you feel the newer answer had more thought put into it? The original answer specified Lariska’s (approximate) height despite not being specifically asked about it, suggesting that Greg already had an idea in mind. In contrast, the newer answer is just him forgetting his original answer.

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I do not mean huge, but average or even slightly below the average dark hunter size. Besides, Shadow Stealer was a member of the Hand of Artahka, the most powerful organization in their times, and he has the power to teleport to every shadow and transform it into a weapon, so he has every reason to be feared. Lariska does not. A reasonable size for Lariska would be something in the league of Tuma, Hydraxon or Umbra, taller than a Toa, but equally shorter than Brutaka or Roodaka.

I meant that the original post was a reaction to avoid canonizing Spiriah’s matoran as Lariska, whereas in the most recent one he is asked directly. If he had the idea in mind I doubt he would forget it so easily, considering that he said that Lariska is his favorite Dark Hunter and one of his favorite Bionicle characters. He also says that when he writes he thinks in words and not in pictures, thus it is more likely that he came up with the toa-sized quote in the moment as a mean to clarify why she can’t be matoran-sized, and that’s why he forgot it. That means that her size never really mattered to him, which to be one of his favorite characters of his magnum opus also means that we shouldn’t care either. If he didn’t forget it (which I doubt), then the 2016 post is a correction. If Greg is asked about it by the TTV admins, with evidence of the 2008 post, the most likely result would be that he will keep his last statement, to allow more creative freedom to the MOCers. Additionally, all the remaining contest with the exception of Marendar and the Golden Skinned Being are for Toa-sized characters only, because they are Toa. Can’t we have a new titan for once?

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He forgets a lot of stuff very easily, including whether or not the Great Spirit left the Solis Magna system, to which he gave two different answers in eight months.

That doesn’t change that that quote came first, making it more canonically sound that the newer one.

Entirely conjecture.

I’m not saying Synnova should not enter the contest with this build - there’s no reason it must adhere to any existing scale. It’s not about limiting creativity or anything, it’s just canonical that she’s Toa-sized.

Synnova, I apologize for allowing your topic to slip like this. Toa Vidal, I will now respectfully disengage from this discussion. Feel free to respond as you wish.

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This is so cool, great use of colors as well!

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Well, all I say is that the “Lariska is toa-sized” is not a strong canon imposition at all, as it is very poorly supported by a forgotten and contradicted post that discourages MOCers to build titan sized Lariskas afraid of not having an opportunity to win. Size should be a matter of personal preference for both voters and MOCers, that’s all I’m saying.

PD: I also apologize for making a needless debate on the comment section of this great MOC when it’s not the place to do so. So I want to end this by saying I love the improvements made to your Lariska. The take on the Vahki head makes it look very original and different from a Vortixx, as well as fitting with other Dark Hunter’s like Conjurer and Charger. And the rendering is just perfect, you nailed it.

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Must we argue over matters of no importance? I see no reason why the size of Lariska has any bearing on this MOC if it is obviously not firmly understood even by her creator (Greg Farshtey). If someone needs to get a final answer on this, why don’t they just ask the original source and get it cleared up once and for all?

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Thank you all! Glad you’ve taken a liking to it :heart:

I understand where you’re coming from, and yeah I guess from a certain perspective her legs do look… thick. Given that I’m trying to apply accurate humanoid proportions though, I believe her legs are appropriately thick enough compared to her body :sweat_smile: She is, after all, acrobatic, so I think it fits quite well that she’d have strong legs

I agree her hands are pretty big; that’s the price I’m willing to pay for a chance to canonize this technique of articulated hands in our lore :joy: Besides, I think it’d be quite nice if our literal one-of-a-kind assassin could have some versatile hands to pose with.

I was surprised myself I could fit all that System in there to form a coherent head design around the Vahki head base; glad you like it!

Istg, man :joy: Considering our personal history of butting heads over Constraction philosophies, I understand the entire context behind this short comment, and I appreciate you for being honest and trying to be polite about it. Cheers, lad :joy:

This should not have made me laugh as much as I did; see you at the contest :joy: :sparkles:

I’ll take any and all validation I can get for my building style and design choices :joy: :joy: :sob: I do appreciate you and all the sentiment to defend Lariska’s height; thank you. This issue has silently bothered me for quite a while now, knowing how I tend to ignore what my builds look like next to existing sets because I’ve never really owned any. If anything, sentiments like yours do encourage me to push on with my vision, because at the end of the day…

… opinions and preferences are just opinions and preferences. The concept of a Toa’s height in LEGO form has always been a wacky topic, and Greg himself has already confirmed that no matter the set’s size, a Toa’s height remains to be ~7 ft tall. It all boils down to what builders put the design next to, and I’m confident in my standalone Lariska here :sparkles: because all a Lariska Entry’s supposed to do is to look like Lariska, and she’s perfect to me.

I massively appreciate your input and your move to keep the thread civil and respectful while maintaining relevance. Thank you. Boards users could use more behavior like this, if I’m bein real :joy: Cheers!

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Exactly, that’s my point. Her size doesn’t matter because it didn’t matter to his creator in the first place. I’ll guess that Greg will be asked eventually the same way Eljay asked about the Yesterday Questers weapons (sadly).

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I think TTV have learned and won’t ask Greg something like that again without express confirmation that the community would be okay with it. I suspect there will be a loose “Toa sized” guideline but I could easily be wrong.

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This is some impressive work, really well done!

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It looks good and I love the presentation altho the use of a vahki head in any lariska moc worries me due to the roodaka/vortix thing

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I really like this and I don’t even care that the night is taller than a toa but I don’t like the head, I get you did it out of spite, but I’m not voting for a vortixx faced lariska

An remarkable moc with some downright gorgeous renders to boot!

(I don’t feel like talking about contest stuff do I’ll just leave it at that :wink: )

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That head is nice

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Time for a necropost as I build up towards campaigning her for the DuckBricks Fanon Contest–

Updated with a new Entry photo, blade arsenal edits, additional photos in the pose gallery, and leg reconstruction for model stability…

and the link to IO files for replication(building) now provided + a Parts List PDF as a bonus for the Bricklink users :relieved::ok_hand:

Cheers, gathered friends. Let the [dark] hunt begin. :crossed_swords:

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nice, the swords are a little bit chonky

As we draw super close to the Fanon Contest, which the great Duck has confirmed to start on the 10th of September, I’ve updated the topic with some new kinds of shots–

Shots of the model built in real life, courtesy of NightDandy, a friend and proud member of the Spanish Bionicle Community who liked my thing enough to actually order parts and build her. :beers:

Being a purely digital builder, all my work is theoretical, and it makes me feel so validated knowing she can exist in the real world too :fire: Hopefully one day, I too will be able to afford dem parts, not just for Lariska, but for my other designs too. Cheers! :beers:

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she looks great!

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I wish you luck in the contest

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