LEGO Ideas 90th Anniversary Set Poll Discussion

[Hawkflight]

@Ghid

If you want there to be a change, be the change.

Very suspiciously worded to not be the version you see on bumper stickers

[Northmarch]

@ToaKebaka

@Toa-of-Snow

I get that this comes from the day when Bionicle fans were all kids and pretty much the whole adult Lego community did look down on it, but… those days are long gone. I just feel like a less generalizing term would be better on a number of levels, I guess.

Yeah perhaps a different, more specific term would be needed (uber-AFOL, purist-AFOL?)

PFOL, Purist fan of lego. Or maybe EFOL for Elitist.

[TheJerminator]

@Northmarch

PFOL, Purist fan of lego

That would suggest Bionicle isn’t real Lego.

Maybe just retool AFOL to stand for something else?

[LegoDavid]

@Axelford

The main problem with theses themes is the dead molds. Classic space doesn’t need any special molds, even exploriens of any of the ranges they put in the list, whereas a LEGO range like Dino Attack needs dinosaurs-either that or you spend the part budget on a brick built Dino. I have the life on Mars base and uh yeah that range has lots of molds as well. I would have loved for these ranges to be revived with one tribute set but LEGO is marketing towards AFOLs not TFOLs or kids.

I mean, pretty much every single original LEGO theme ever released has introduced at least a few new molds. Even Classic Space famously had the Crater Basplates, which have been out of use for decades. But I guess that doesn’t really matter, since they could very easily do a single large D2C set without any of those specific molds. If Classic Space wins, they just make a large spaceship, without any including baseplates.
That old retired molds issue is a problem for pretty much any themes LEGO might consider bringing back, even the ones available in the poll. (some more than others, but still).

@Axelford

As a TFOL (yes that right I collect all da types of Lego, not just bionicle)

Same here, I guess we’re on the same page.

[ToaKebaka]

@TheJerminator

That would suggest Bionicle isn’t real Lego.

Not neccessarily. The group of people we are trying to name already think Bionicle isn’t real Lego, so from their pespective this is accurate.They are purists in their own elitist view on the matter.

[Hawkflight]

Well you have to deal with the already existent definition of “purist” in the LEGO community, to mean someone who only uses parts created by LEGO. BIONICLE is part of the purist boundary. Personally. I’d use the term BIO-Exclusionist - any LEGO fan that, for one reason or another, has the mindset that BIONICLE shouldn’t be treated as true LEGO.

[ToaKebaka]

In that case, wouldn’t Constraction-exclusionist be more adequate?
Or maybe you could call them de-constracted AFOLs

PS: The truth is “purist” is used by Lego fans in way too many contexts to give it a singular definition.

[Atobe_Brick]

I don’t think it’s a huge issue, but if folks think that the name is misleading, I suggest “AFOB” (adult fan of bricks).

Anyway, wasn’t the second vote supposed to start today? I don’t see it on Lego Ideas.

[ToaKebaka]

I believe it starts on 3. february.

[Atobe_Brick]

oh, whoops. I thought that today was the third.

[Makutros]

@Atobe_Brick

“AFOB”

AFOLB (Adult Fans of Lego Bricks) is a term used for people who like Lego bricks but dislike the company. The whole naming thing is a bit confusing.

[ToaKebaka]

Well, I already made my proposal: de-constracted AFOLs.
(Not that it ultimately matters that much)

[TheJerminator]

@ToaKebaka

They are purists in their own elitist view on the matter.

The problem with that is that “purism” is already an established concept in the Lego community, referring to a build that does not modify parts, or use non-Lego parts.

[Toa-of-Snow]

@LegoDavid

That old retired molds issue is a problem for pretty much any themes LEGO might consider bringing back, even the ones available in the poll. (some more than others, but still).

Laughs in Time Cruisers

But in all seriousness, your point stands.

@Makutros

people who like Lego bricks but dislike the company

They… exist? On a scale where there’s a whole acronym for them? Lego is like, one of the most chill corporate entities you’ll find. What issues are people (who are already lego fans) having with TLG that are strong enough for a named community to pop up?

[Ghid]

Y’know, there’s enough diversion from the original topic that I’m gonna start a separate topic for this. It’s a really good discussion and I want to keep it going.

Boom.

Checkmate, elon musk.

[Makutros]

@Toa-of-Snow

They… exist? On a scale where there’s a whole acronym for them? Lego is like, one of the most chill corporate entities you’ll find. What issues are people (who are already lego fans) having with TLG that are strong enough for a named community to pop up?

In my home country they currently gain more and more popularity. There is one particular YouTube channel (btw the biggest channel with Lego related content in Germany now) that is quite successful lately, where one guy just sits there with a cup of coffee and rants about the latest Lego stets or reviews sets from other legal brick producers. Lately there was some controversy because Legos lawyers sent him a letter in which they forced him to delete videos with more than a million views because he used the term Lego for these alternatives, what some people took immediately as a sign that Lego wants to silence his critique.
Personally I like that channel because I think he makes some good arguments, but I can’t deny that he created a rift between the communities, especially since he started to call people who think that Lego still makes decent products “fanboys”.
While he doesn’t consider himself as an AFOLB he definitely helped to grow interest.

[Toa-of-Snow]

That’s fascinating. I’ve never found “Lego Alternatives” (except really weird stuff like flexible bricks and whatnot that isn’t really Lego) to hold a candle to the official products in terms of quality. Maybe it’s different in Germany… (A quick Google of the term “AFOLB” was only bringing up German results, so the term at least seems to be a German one… despite using English words for the acronyms. )

We should probably move this conversation to the topic that Ghid helpfully created, though.

[LegoDavid]

@Atobe_Brick

I suggest “AFOB” (adult fan of bricks).

“AFOB” could also stand for “Adult Fan of Bionicle”.

[Makutros]

Apparently AFOB is trademarked in Germany by a brick alternative online shop since 2020.

Official results are in by the way. Castle gets an extra chance. The poll is also live.

Fan Vote - The Final Vote: Help Celebrate the 90th Anniversary of The LEGO...

[The_Blue_Panda]

YESSSSSSS BIONICLE YESSSSSSS