Oh, I didnt count Willess, I thought his name was crossed out, my bad. I was also counting the victim of the mafia that will occur after the execution.
@Omega_Tahu Do we lose when we get down to a certain number of players left, or only when the number of innocents to mafia is equal?
This
Basically if the mafia ever get the power to tie the innocent in the number of votes, they win as thereās no way to save yourself from that.
Ok, this took a while to figure out, and is kind of complicated, but bare with me. Also, ignore what I said before, my counting was off cause I wasnt counting Hawk or Willess12.
Right now we have:
Holi
Racie
Jayzor
TheMOCingbird
Invader: confirmed innocent
_el
Jcton
Willess
Hawk
Ghid.
Mafia remaining: 3
assuming I was innocent and we went for the triple kill, it would leave these people alive by the end of Day 3 (today):
Holi
Racie
Jayzor
Invader: confirmed innocent
_el
Willess
Hawk: confirmed murderer
Mafia remaining: 2
That night, an innocent would be killed, most likely invader because thatās who the mafia would want dead seeing as they could throw no blame on him, so, by the beginning of Day 4, we would have:
Holi
Racie
Jayzor
_el
Willess
Hawk: confirmed murderer
Mafia remaining: 2
Then, that day, regardless of what story is told, the innocents would execute Hawk, because he was already confirmed Mafia. So by the end of Day 4 we would have:
Holi
Racie
Jayzor
_el
Willess
Mafia remaining: 1
Then, that night the Mafia kills someone, letās say Holi cause heās at the top of the list. So, by the beginning of Day 5 we would have:
Racie
Jayzor
_el
Willess
Mafia remaining: 1
Then the execution of day 5 would come down to the 3 innocents using all the evidence they have collected thus far to try and determine the murderer, if they pick the wrong person, they lose, but could afford a triple execution, leaving only one innocent remaining.
Now, if you see any flaws in that, then go ahead ad point them out. Iām also not taking into account any special abilities, but even counting them, I believe they would only help the innocents chance of success. Iām working on figuring out what would happen if I was Mafia, but Iām busy right now, and this is all I got for now.
EDIT: as of 1:43 EST I fixed a lot of the issues with this post, re read it, it had tons of problems before
So clearly the plan is;
Triple kill
Hawk
Quadruple kill
Well, if we quadruple kill on day 5, weāll lose, so it would be triple kill on day five, and hope we pick the right person to be the last remaining innocent. Also if you read the post before 1:43, go re read it, it had tons of issues cause I accidentally copied and pasted a section which messed things up, also I had the day numbers wrong.
Nah, scorched Earth policy
The only real flaw I see in this plan is if Mafia try to change their votes at the last second to get someone killed before others have a chance to react, but that seems cheep, and against the spirit of the game. And Omega_Tahu could also make that against the rules. I think a good system would be whenever someone changes their vote, others get some time to change their votes as well.
Hereās a better tactic
If MOCās not mafia and I know Iām not mafia
Get Jcton?
I wonāt be doing so.
Itās a valid tactic that while cheap and effective, also comes with a series of drawbacks.
But how do we know youāre not mafia? And even if I am Mafia, this will still be pretty good for us, because while weāll have one more mafia to worry about, weāll have another confirmed innocent because it will prove Hawk is innocent. Either way I think this might be our best call, even if it is a bloody one.
Dang it.
Mocingbird: 4 _el, Invader, Hawk, Willess
Jcton: 1 Ghido
Ghid: 1 Holi
Invader39: 0
Itās a common tactic in mafia games, actually. Iāve done it myself, and I thought Tuaro had done it on the first round, though it seems I was wrong. Invested players often watch the vote count closely at the last minutes.
Because youāre the mafian, obviously. You decided to go again this round, to prevent us from figuring out the identities of the other mafians. Thereās still two more mafians who havenāt acted yet, and as such, we have no idea who they are. itās also not something most people would expect.
As such, I am voting for TheMOCingbird. Iām also spelling his name right for onceā¦
Well, honestly, how do I know youāre not?
Because you say you arenāt. Thatās the only real evidence you have that you arenāt, and itās the only real evidence I have that Iām not. All we have outside of that is posts claiming to be innocent. I have mine stating that I truly am just here for the fun of it.
EDIT:[quote=āWilless12, post:214, topic:49065ā]
Ghid: 0
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Invader voted for me.
EDIT again: No sorry, Holi.
Thanks, mustāve missed it somehow.
but you get picked to be put on trial, even if youāre the mafia you donāt get to choose, right?
and [quote=āGhid, post:215, topic:49065ā]
Well, honestly, how do I know youāre not?
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as I said, even if I am the mafia, this will still help the innocents in the outcome.
Only if the other rounds go the way you predict.
No, your surprisingly elaborate solution seems more like a mafia ploy than a useful tactic.
The Mafia generally pick which of them does the kill.
~W12~
Oh, thought it was that they all agree on someone to kill, then the GM chooses a mafia to be put on trial.
and, [quote=āGhid, post:218, topic:49065ā]
Only if the other rounds go the way you predict.
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well, if we do the triple kill now, and I am the mafia, we will definitely get to know for sure that Hawk is innocent, though that alone is a high price to pay.
And if Hawk is mafia, the mafia would ensure he never gets on trial again.
Omega_Tahu never said weather or not we can vote for people not on trial, so this kinda hinges on that decision.
He did earlier
Also, I donāt think mocingbird is guilty
As if he was, heād have gotten a pm and this would have been a lot more difficult to forget initially