sounds like lego is being tougher on leaks than they were back in 2014 with g2
Nope. It varies year by year.
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“what should we do to bring in more people?” - Random Employee
“I wish I could take a bath in gold…” - Random Employee 2
“OH MY GOD YOU ARE A GENIOUS!” - Random Employee
"wha’ - Random Employee 2
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G2 got a moc contest in 2014, and NYCC panel to announce the theme
where as Ninjago (an evergreen theme) got a page in the Lego club magazine to announce the new theme
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My point exactly; that said, G2 started off really storng, but tended to fade a bit as time went on. However, even in the Summer of 2016, I wouldn’t say that it got an unusually small amount of promotional material.
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Having no commercial for the summer 2016 sets at all comes to mind as a clear difference.
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If that had happened for whatever reason, then it would, yes.
There were numerous TV spots for both the Masters, Skull Villains, Umarak, and the Uniters throughout G2’s run. This getting quite a ways off topic, however, so it would be good to try to move this or dial it down.
EDIT: Ah, you edited your post. Y’know, yeah, I don’t remember a commercial for those, specifically.
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I fail to see how that shows that g2 had ‘more marketing than most Lego themes’,
Bionicle is important both to Lego’s history and the fans, it makes sense they’d announce it at comic con, Ninjago wasn’t an evergreen when it launched, it was a fresh IP with no history.
G2 had about average marketing(animation, books, comic/graphic novel), unfortunately it was really poorly handled,
Web animations/Netflix exclusive rather than TV series, no activity books and the same cookie cutter mobile game Lego makes for all its ip’s but without any incentive to buy the sets, virtually no presence in the public consciousness, solid gold masks (IE massive waste of resources).
On the surface the marketing seems to line up with the usual MO, however when you look at the specifics of it you start to see exactly what went wrong.
Taking the money from the gold masks and putting it towards an oog and a TV show I think could have made g2 successful(at least enough for a third year) we’ll never know for sure, but, let’s for the sake of argument say the leak is true, ‘tv show and app’ sounds like a step in the right direction to be sure.
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G2 literally got a panel for NYCC
Im not saying Ninjago was an evergreen theme when i t was announced , I was trying point out how Ninjago had a small announcement and managed to become an evergreen theme.
I agree with on how the Gold masks was a stupid move
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And… That’s about it, besides the scarcely-seen commercials for the line. :S
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Hello. I’m going to be Johnny Raincloud for this discussion, and claim that there will be no original CCBS/Constraction theme in 2018.
Proving a negative is impossible, so I will attempt to demonstrate my position is true by assuming that there will be a 2018 CCBS line, and try to get to a contradiction. (For those of you who do the maths, proof by contradiction is a common(ish) proof method).
Assuming that there will be a 2018 CCBS line, we know that it is either a) Bionicle G3 or b) not Bionicle G3.
Let’s assume a) is true. We know that Lego planned to cancel Bionicle sometime in 2015, because that’s when JTO was written. We also know that these themes are usually planned out years in advance, so it would mean that this G3 was being planned out, at the latest, sometime in 2014. That means Lego would have had to made the call to bring back Bionicle before they decided to cancel G2. That’s a contradiction, and thus, a) is false.
Let’s assume b) is true. Again we know this thing was being planned out sometime during Invasion From Below. Fine. That makes sense. It seems as if Lego is planning on expanding their constraction lineup, having Bionicle run for a bit on its own, then joined by SW, then joined concurrently by this new 2018 theme. (Again, only assuming b is true). Then, Bionicle is axed in 2015. I’m going to go ahead, at this point, and jump out on a limb. I’m going to assume that the wisdom of the community is true, and that this was done because of less than stellar sales figures. If true, this is a trend we see in HF as well. It is then, at the very least, poor business practice, and at the most, incredibly stupid, to not kill the 2018 theme whilst still in development. By this logic, the 2018 theme should be dead, but assumption b) assumes the 2018 theme will come out. This is a contradiction, and proves b is false.
I have now proven both cases a and b false with contradictions, and am willing to conclude that there will not be a new CCBS/Constraction theme in 2018.
QED.
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You’ve proven both cases through lots of assumptions though
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yes because that sent the line skyrocketing into popularity.
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Our problem here is we don’t have anything here besides vague claims from unknown sources. If we had these leaks or got better descriptions we wouldn’t be having this debate.
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Not only that, but we’re concerned about the desire to latch on any tiny bit of info. For that reason, folks may be on the fence about sharing rumors.
And what exactly do you mean by that? 
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The 2018 2HY hasn’t even been sent out to retailers yet. The 1HY one has been out for a while.
You won’t see any 2HY stuff until at least December I think.
Voloctoreb is a horrible name btw idk who the heck came up with that but LOL
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I’ll be honest here, I don’t know how anybody is still arguing about whether G2 sold well when it so obviously didn’t. It’s been a year already and I guess some people are still in denial. Most people who would’ve taken interest didn’t even know G2 was a thing and it was probably too late if they ever found out, and this was mostly the fault of a lack of promoting the line at all.
@Azani I don’t intend for any of this to sound mean, and I don’t think everyone is in denial, but I think a lack of interest from average consumers is enough to tell you that it wasn’t exactly popular.
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The time when TLG explicitly, publically denied it might have something to do with it - just a guess.
It’s not very nice to accuse folks of being in denial, especially if they’re, y’know, backed by more logic than you are.
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Yeah but people then say Lego was, essentially, lying. Though I’m not sure why, if Lego got caught lying about sales they could get into legal trouble
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Wondering if TLG was being a little dishonest, as a community, makes a lot of sense. That being said, I feel like the quote “Overall, Bionicle products were successful” would implicate that the line was at least average as far as sales went. I don’t think that they would say that if sales were awful. I feel like; and this may be just me, but a lot of folks don’t take into account the other possibilities for why they axed G2 - maybe something else that they really wanted to keep was selling poorly.
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