Some Immoral Kanohi Ideas.

LEGO BIONICLE
1

I would like to hear your opinions about these Immoral Kanohi ideas that I have planned to use in a potential fanfic in the future. And yes I have thought of enough Makuta to use all of them.

Mask of thorns.

The user creates poisonous thorn covered vines to attack and restrain opponents.

Considered immoral due to being unable to be used in a way that doesn’t include an opponent suffering if used on them.

Inspired by a devil fruit.

Mask of dehydration.

Dehydrates an opponent, while not as fast or as devastating as a Boggarak’s rhotuka it is debilitating and it can be deadly if given enough time.

Immoral due to it being deadly and its association with a type of Visorak.

Mask of imprisonment

Traps an opponent in physical bindings made of energy that is like being chained to the inside of a box.

Immoral due to the enemy being aware of their surroundings unlike a mask of stasis field and they could eventually starve to death.

Mask of mineralization

Turns the organics of an opponent into stone.

Immoral due to the deadliness and pain the transformation causes.

Mask of hyperthermia

Causes an opponent to lose body heat causing damage to their organic parts. While ice isn’t formed this effect is strong enough to be fatal.

Immoral due to being deadly or at the very least painfully debilitating.

Mask of asphyxiation

Causes whatever the targets breathes in order to live to become something incompatible with them. It is not a vacuum based effect, nor is it poisonous, and powers like air generation, remove poison, or adaptation cannot help since it affects the opponents from the inside. It works on those who breathe water but it doesn’t work at all on those that don’t breathe or need to breathe even if they are capable of that.

Immoral due how deadly it is.

Mask of serration

Causes inanimate objects to grow sharp blades. The blades can be straight, jagged, serrated, or barb. Can make weapons deadlier even improvised ones like a rock. Can turn an opponent’s mask and armour sharp on the inside which will either kill, wound or at the very least restrict the one who is wearing them. The effects last indefinitely unless the user undoes it. It cannot change what the object is made of so the blades are made of the same material as the target object is made of.

Immoral due to making any object even an opponent’s Kanohi painful or even deadly to them.

Mask of puppetry

User can control the movements of opponents. It is limited to those within a certain radius. This power also includes control over things such as eye and mouth movements so they can make their puppets stay quiet or speak whatever the user wants them to say.

Immoral due to taking control of the target’s body, and making them be aware of it while the mask is activated.

Mask of corpse binding

The user can turn corpses into proxies of themselves from which they can experience things through them like a Makuta and infected Kanohi. They can also channel powers through them but this doesn’t increase factors such as how much elemental energy they have. Any rhotuka the corpses uses will have the same power as the user of this Kanohi. This mask is more effective on corpses that are similar in structure to the user.

Immoral due to utilising corpses.

The idea for this one was something between a Tryna and a Mohtrek.

Mask of false death

Forces a target into a death like coma leaving them helpless. They have some awareness which tends to be quite traumatic.

Immoral due to how traumatising this power is.

Mask of mental fatigue

Drain the target’s mental faculties causing them to feel like they haven’t slept enough. This also makes it more difficult for them to think.

Immoral due to how this mask affects the mind.

Mask of rage

Increases user’s rage and makes them stronger. Can also give a boost to powers that normally need more concentration. Can help the user tap into their inner darkness

Immoral since toa see this as being similar to becoming a Hordika and potentially increase the darkness in its user.

Mask of fragility

Makes the target become fragile in certain scenarios for example making a toa of air become heat sensitive like a toa of ice. It can also weaken a target’s resistance for example weakening a toa of lightning resistance to electric shocks. Multiple effects can stack if the fragility is focused on different weaknesses. The same weakness cannot be increased beyond a certain point.

Immoral due to being seen as cursing a target and weakening innate resistances.

Mask of pain

Causes varying levels of pain in a target. Mental shielding cannot mitigate the pain.

Immoral due to how sadistic this power is.

Mask of plagues

Infects a target with a plague that can be deadly if not treated soon enough. The target becomes contagious. A noble version would make the plague spread via contact. The great version makes it airborne within a small radius around the target. Those infected become able to spread the plague in the same manner they were infected.

Immoral due to the potential for mass loss of life.

Mask of hallucinations

Makes the target’s sense malfunction causing them to have horrific experiences. It is similar to when Gali had her senses enhanced to the point of madness.

Immoral due to causing insanity.

Mask of mind editing

Can alter the memories of a target or suppress them.

Immoral due to changing a being’s identity or relationships.

Mask of hysteria

Causes whatever the target feels to increase to the point of incapacitation. Can be deadly to others if the emotion being affected is akin to fear, resentment, or anger.

Immoral due to making beings lose control of themselves.

Mask of darkness

Like the kraata power while it can’t grant the user elemental power over shadow it can create a freezing darkness that can be deadly if a being spends enough time in it.

Immoral due to being a shadow related power.

So what do you think of these immoral Kanohi ideas?

5 Likes
2

Changed topic category to bettr fit topic content -Ghid

Some of these seem redundant based on existing masks/powers. The mask of hysteria is just a less useful version of Dalu’s weapons, which have its ability as a side effect.

1 Like
3

Well the same thing happens in Bionicle. The mask of silence is immoral and less powerful than the kraata power of silence. Plus toa of sonics and air can mimic the same effect yet the Kanohi power is immoral.

1 Like
4

The Mask of Misplacing Your Car Keys.

6 Likes
5

I think there’s someone using the Mask of Mental Fatigue on me right now!
It’s definitely not just procrastination and bad sleep habits…

I agree with @Ghid’s thoughts on the Mask of Hysteria, so I won’t go into that here.

For some of these masks, I feel like you’re forcing them to be immoral, and others feel like they were made for no reason other than to be immoral. Try to consider when making masks why someone would make the mask in the first place–remember that the Makuta were (mostly) good once, and that any masks they wear would likely have been programmed by somewhat-benevolent Great Beings.

For instance, the Mask of Thorns sounds like it could be very useful and applicable outside of situations that require poison. Remember that some masks in Bionicle canon were only immoral due to association with the Makuta who wielded them, and that not every immoral mask needs to have an specificly immoral power, necessarily, just a power that can be used for evil. Had a Makuta worn the Kaukau, the Toa would have found some justification for it to be immoral, after all. Paladins! The Mask of Imprisonment also falls into this category if its duration is reduced to avoid being overpowered.

Some of the other masks feel too specific to be broadly. How would one use a Mask of Dehydration practically? Similarly categorized are the masks that exist only to kill or otherwise heavily debilitate an opponent, like the Masks of Hypothermia, Mineralization, Serration, Pain, and Plagues. Try thinking of another application for these masks that the Makuta or other users have twisted into something dangerous. For instance, perhaps the Mask of Hypothermia was a Mask of Ice that someone used to give someone hypothermia? It’s not the greatest example, but think along those lines. (Just a quick note: you said hyperthermia, but that’s the opposite of what you described. They’re similar words, but they are different.)

Other masks feel too powerful–if a Makuta wielded a Mask of Asphyxiation, would they not be able to dethrone Teridax, reform the Plan to their liking, and kill anyone who disagrees with them? Think of Zaheer’s asphyxiation powers from The Legend of Korra–the power is useful, almost a little too much so, but it is balanced such that it at least gives their target’s allies a chance to react, if they are able to. The Mask of False Death also feels overpowered–in D&D, such an ability would always require a saving throw, but this hardly gives a target time to resist. The Mask of Fragility seems like something that would be a D&D spell, but it doesn’t fit very well with Bionicle, and a general weakening mask would feel too overpowered in its way.

The Mask of Puppetry is just a Komau, and the Mask of Corpse Binding is too similar to the two other masks you described it taking inspiration from. The Mask of Mind Editing is also something the Komau was described as doing in Adventures 5: Voyage of Fear. For the Mask of Hallucinations, I feel like it’s a bit too catered to being immoral as well as being too similar to other abilities. Perhaps, instead, Masks of Psionics are immoral because many evil entities use them like this Mask of Hallucinations? The Mask of Darkness feels too specific, and its name is the same as the Kraakhan but with less powers. It’s got more interesting powers than the original, if I’m being honest, but this treatise covers how these masks fit into existing Bionicle mask lore.

Out of all of these, I would say that the Mask of Mental Fatigue is my favorite, if only because of how much I relate to its effects. It is followed by the Mask of Rage, which feels like something that could be useful in general but also makes sense as an immoral mask.

In general, I would recommend thinking about why the Great Beings would create these masks. Even many of the Makuta masks in canon still make sense for “nanobots” to wield: the Jutlin can break down rubble, the Avsa can reallocate excess energy to more situation-applicable workers (similar notes apply to the Mask of Scavenging), the Mohtrek can instantly create extra workers, and the Shelek can silence loud environments to prevent ear sensor damage. The other canon immoral masks have functions useful for the protection of workers from out-of-control creatures or workers (Felnas, Crast, Mask of Aging), allow the reuse of nonfunctional workers (Tryna, Mask of Undeath), monitor their status (Kraakhan), optimize them for certain tasks (Mask of Reconstitution) or protect trade secrets (Mask of Incomprehension).

Again, I also think you should consider balancing these masks more. Yes, Makuta masks can be powerful, but still think about how few times most Makuta used actually them. They did not have not powers the Makuta necessarily broke out every fight, but rather powers they use when useful for the situation, which was not always the case. Even Krika’s Crast was used only when necessary. I mentioned D&D a few times earlier; in that game, some old monsters and spells could insta-kill players, but the designers realized eventually that it was more fun if players had a chance to resist such things. So, think about how those on the receiving end of the mask would be able to resist or survive, rather than creating masks that are evil just to be evil.

The most immoral of them all?

Why did I spend so long writing this?

4 Likes
6

That’s not an automatic approval just because it mirrors how things work already. The Shadowed One is apparently a mammal based entirely on his breathing air, according to Greg.

Mask of imprisonment is interesting, in that it replicates the insanely specific power of Avak, but it might be more tangible if it worked similarly to the Brotherhood’s weapons in the swamp of secrets, freezing an opponent’s mechanical components and locking them in place but lacking the mental control over the victim the weapons offered.

4 Likes
7

I second this idea–I’d forgotten all about the Nynrah ghost blasters, but I agree that they’d be perfect for this.

Every time I forget about this, it somehow comes back up, and I have a nice laugh.

1 Like
8

While I was trying to make these mask immoral they could have had useful applications despite how deadly they are. Like a mask of asphyxiation being used on a fire or poison gas breathing rahi to prevent them from attacking Matoran.

2 Likes
9

That’s true, but defining so many masks by how deadly they are makes them all start to run together.

2 Likes
10

Well I guess I won’t explain these immoral Kanohi like that in that fanfic idea I had. Though at this rate if I decide to write it.

2 Likes
11

Don’t be discouraged! These are still good ideas, I just think they could use some improvement.

1 Like
12

So if I explained a moral application followed by an immoral one explaining why they became immoral Kanohi would this be better?

2 Likes
13

Not every mask necessarily needs a moral application. I just think it would help to consider how the mask is used and then define why it is immoral. Is it immoral because of its powers, or is it immoral because of its wielder? There are some masks that were immoral without Makuta, but even most of those still had other uses. I would not argue that the Tryna is moral in any situation, but the raising of the corpses does have practical applications, no matter how grim, for the operation of the Great Spirit Robot, thus explaining why it was programmed in.

1 Like
14

Well the reason I insisted on the immoral explanations is the Makuta who use them in that fanfic idea of mine never rebelled but they did use these Kanohi and the canon ones in ways that lead to the death of corrupt Toa and Dark Hunters. Then there is the whole Toa see these Kanohi as them messing with the world even though technically since the great beings programmed them into the universe they as as natural as any other Kanohi.

3 Likes