Hoseryx was a perfect storm. A MOC worse than the already-beloved Guys (beloved by the wider fandom anyway, I never found the Guys all that funny), in a silly-enough way that it captured the imagination of people in the fandom as well as drawing the attention of the people who weren’t in the fandom, or wanted to rain on TTVEljay’s parade.
A good MOC will not inspire the same fervor.
You sure about that? I’m sure Maskposting will flip as soon as they just here the words “catgirl Lariska made it into the polls” whether the moc is good or not they will vote on it for that merit just the same, I’m just overly cautious here. Because we have all seen the worst case scenario play out once
I’m big against Vahki heads on Lariska but you make a good point. If it’s clearly only there because Roodaka had it, then that’s an issue, but if it’s well-utilized then I guess there’s no reason to ban it specifically. I just know it’ll cause drama, though, on more than one entry.
The real problem with Lariska isn’t Lariska as a character, but the fact that her apperance, out of all the contests, affects lore the most, because it’d define an entire species.
And that’s a real issue which I’d absolutely expect to boil up no matter what.
There are two clear types here, and they have a canon lore basis.
But that’s besides the point.
My point is - there are more beings who look like Lariska, and thus Lariska would define that entire group.
And thus when doing canon compliant worldbuidling, these beings have to be included, overturning and/or destroying far more concepts than one-of-a-kind beings or some Toa. Artakha, the GSB and Marendar are bad enough, but with an entire species on the line, results may be crippling for some aspects of fan projects.
Yee because all species in real life totally look identical to one another with no exceptions/s.
Cats for example have several subspecies but in the end they are all still cats. Why that couldn’t be the case for the matoran universe is beyond me. Like even the toa isn’t a species that is 100% identical with one another in the Matoran universe.
If Lariska ends up being cat-like it would only really make the fact that they can have ears and a tail canon.
Although we have never seen any other member of Lariska’s species.
Perhaps some MOCists who made their own Lariska, made members of Lariska’s species
Well… It’s the same for me, too.
That’s why the Lariska contest will be even more intense.
Exactly, which means even more is attached to that whole thing. And not in a positive way. I’d be way happier with everyone just doing their own thing and not (indirectly) trying to prove others wrong via these contests. Live and let live.
Let’s have the contest but don’t have the winner be made canon. That way you have the excitement and a winner, but none of the negative side-effects.
Yes, yes, we’ve been over why canon appearances matter from both sides of the argument. But in still comes down to honest curiosity and interest vs. people who actually work with the material. And I just can’t see how non-canon contests wouldn’t serve both at no cost for either.
i always want to be remembered as one of the ones who started that
I like that our Pouks MOC still ended up with thicker thighs than the other five.
This is another thing that’s been kicking around in my head for a while.
If people are buying pieces to build their own GSB or Marendar (or Orde or Nidhiki or whatever) simply because they want to build those characters for themselves, with a possible eye for entering their contest, go right on ahead, that’s perfectly fine, I’m not talking to you.
But, if you’re buying solely for those contests, I really really really think you need to slow your role. Those contests were going to be years away no matter what, even back in 2019. Even at that time they weren’t guaranteed, with Meso/Eljay repeatedly saying there would most likely be a vote to determine if people wanted GSB and Marendar contests in the first place. And now with the future of the contests more up in the air than ever before, you’re jumping the gun by an extreme distance, and I really think you’re only setting yourself up for disappointment.
Just… be aware and cautious, people.
Catgirl lariska isn’t a proper meme yet because it doesn’t have a name, like Hoseryx, or Lariskat.
Uh, I mean–
this, so much.
I’ve seen people say “cancelling the contests is bad because people are already buying parts for Marendar”. Yeah, of course people are planning big mocs for the guy that will take a while to build, but if you’re upset because you spent money on something you knew was never guaranteed… that’s your fault.
At least pre-Lariska contests should not be cancelled.
My problem with it is that it will become one after voting have started hence why I fret another “hoseryx” situation.
Had not the cultural stigma been a factor, I wouldn’t have cared about people interpreting Lariska as a cat at all. However due to said stigma its bound to be picked up as a joke as soon as it goes through the vetting process and after that its too late.
I mean, there’s only one, that being Tuyet.
That’s … not true. An entry is never too late to be rule 11’d, and it’s almost universally obvious when something is getting meme’d to victory.
Yeah, this.
I’ve had a character in the works for a while, who, ideally… will have a gold Skakdi spine. However… I never had Irnakk. So now I’m on a time limit to get the funds to buy an already-ludicrously-expensive part before they all get snapped up by people building Greg’s Dumb Dream Genie for a contest that might never happen.
I was lucky enough to get the black Metru torsos I needed for another character before we had a Canon Bomonga that’s going to need five of the bloody things due to the contests. But that might not happen again, and I worry about the impact that future contests will have on the already-finite number of Bionicle parts left in the wild.
Honestly, if my MOC won from becoming a meme, I would probably support it getting Rule 11’d out of the running too, because that isn’t a victory I’d want.
Hoping it getting memed won’t happen in the first place, but just in case…
