G2 went bad just because it was executed bad. Even while there were good sets, even HF was executed better. So that’s purely LEGO’s fault
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So, in your opinion, what made G2 executed poorly? Not saying I disagree, just wondering.
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Well, like half of more of sets are bad. Also cartoon promotion was like nonexistent, netflix cartoon not in count. Story also was like not present almost, besides the books that you might’ve never even heard of during series run.
And it’s all was bad not only objectively, but also in comparison to all continuing and newly presented themes of middle 2010s
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Ima just plop this here because it’s relevant.
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Could you elaborate on that why do you think that? Because as I saw, the general consensus is that the sets are mainly great (most of Toas, Umarak, Ekimu), good (the protectors and the creatures), mediocre (villain waves) and 1-2 bad (LoSS and Skull Scorpio).
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Yes, but G2 didn’t flop because it was a fresh start. It flopped because it was barely marketed, received a lot of interference from higher-ups*, and because its story was presented incredibly poorly. I have plenty of personal gripes about G2’s story, but the core concept was solid, objectively speaking. It could have worked if it had been handled with more care and allowed to live up to its potential. Hopefully a G3 that took the same approach (a brand new story) wouldn’t suffer the same internal sabotage.
*This is admittedly speculation on my part, based on the dissonance between the unbridled enthusiasm of the set designers and concept artists and the lacklustre, unmotivated presentation of the story. It just seems to me like the Bionicle G2 team were passionate about the project and wanted it to be as grand in scale as its predecessor, but were forced to tone it down so much that it completely lost its spark
@TTheLus Hard disagree on the sets. They all had their flaws, of course, but almost all the G2 sets were excellent, IMO.
Everything else though? Yeah, exactly.
Edited for Double Post - BioKnight
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I didn’t know we were supposed to want BIONICLE back, nor do I want it back. I was disappointed at the admittedly lackluster end to the story, but looking back ten years later, that “wound” has already scabbed and skinned over long ago and I have no particular need or desire to see a BIONICLE continuation in any form. I think other people want it back for the same reason anyone wants anything nostalgic back–because it was good, or they remember it as good, and it would be great to get that same thrill again. I’ve personally realized that I am not the same person I was when BIONICLE ended and wouldn’t experience it the same way, and also (more importantly), that all stories are better left off than dragged out unnecessarily. “Dragging out” includes “dredging up” from a decade ago. I think too much time has passed for BIONICLE to hold any of its former weight and interest if revitalized.
The only reason I’d be excited to see it back would be to get new mask molds, but that’s a small reason.
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Honestly I think the fans would appreciate more than anything would just to have some of the older parts get recycled into newer sets or released molds for 3-D printing of em. Idk, maybe just me.
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I get the feeling you’re not the only one on the boards with the “I’m always right” mentality. But then, I’m not one to judge, since I’ve used that mentality myself on more than a few occasions.
Do I even want to know what a Noble Akaku would look like? Or a Hau, or a Miru, for that matter?
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Almost all y2 sets, except creatures, umarak and lava beast were awful, imo
YEOWCH!!
MAMA MIA, THAT’S-A SPICCYY HOT TAKE-A!!
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I like how flame-broiled chicken and ketar are good sets
I can’t fully disagree since the G2 sets weren’t that great all-around, but is this really that awful?
(I’m getting off topic)
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Oh, I meant Noble versions of the 2001 masks.
Eh…I mean…I wanted to like the 2016 Toa, but there was just something about their designs that I didn’t find that interesting or appealing. But I feel kind of bad about saying/feeling that, because apparently a lot of people liked the 2016 sets a lot. And it was the last wave of Bionicle ever, and I’m sure Lego tried to make them good sets, so trashing them kind of feels wrong.
Yeah they are supposed to be noble versions of the 01 masks.
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I never really understood why so many people disliked them. To me, they look like a natural upgrade over their 2015 versions.
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They.
Are.
No set designer ever intended them to be, but Greg said they are, so they are.
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The title kinda says it all here.
Ever since Bionicle G2 crashed and burned, a lot of people have talked about the theme coming back for another, more proper reboot. The more I think about it, the more I realize I agree. Even though I was indifferent to G2 at first, that was mainly because it had absolutely no connections to G1, and that made it hard for me to get into. In the years since, I’ve realized why it was a complete reboot-so it would be able to draw in new fans easier. Of course, G2 was NOT executed very well, hence why it ended up failing. But I’ve accepted that, if Bionicle does come back, it won’t be a continuation of G1 or G2. I’m willing to accept it as a complete reboot. And if it actually does well enough to warrant a full 3 years with a complete story, then it’ll be able to give Bionicle proper closure-much better than anything G1 or G2 got.
But those are just my thoughts. What about yours?
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I think we all want bionicle back but I’m just more worried about g3 getting the same corporate treatment as G2. I mean from the old art book G2 had some really cool ideas but everything wrong was basically corporate meddling.
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I actively don’t want a G3. I want BIONICLE to be able to rest in peace without overzealous fans spending all their spell slots trying to cast Revivify. Sure, a tribute or at least acknowledgement from TLC would be nice, but I think that a G3 would do more harm than good.
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