Why is Solek a hated set?

[Omega_Tahu]

@keiththelegokid

@Payinku

That is a completely different argument to what you said before, and frankly has lost the plot.

My argument has a storyline? I’m just clarifying my original point. You get the same amount of plastic just in less pieces…It’s like Duplo sets.

@Omega_Tahu

This would be a arguement for the first bionicle sets that came out, since the line was just starting. But those sets were more complex than the Av Matoran, and we’ve had titans, vehicles, etc. since then, making that argument pretty weak.

Alright, you and I have no problem building those sets, but a kid with an intention span that amounts to less than a minute will. That group of kids is part of the main target group.

@Payinku

You mean kids, you’re saying it’s OK because kids are stupid, I was able to build the 03 Titans by myself when I was little, not an argument.

Just because you could doesn’t mean other kids could. Lego has to try to provide for all of the age levels.

@Sammythekat

I don’t think the demographic for bionicle is little kids, mate.

Then why do most say 7-14 on the box?[quote=“Drahcir_Nosnevets, post:100, topic:31429”]
The targeted demographic WAS kids

Thank You.

@Sammythekat

i’m referring to little kids, not kids that are around 8.

like, the kind that would probably need to have the parts be larger.

Well, of course they aren’t meant for toddlers but any kid 5 and up gets lego sets. In fact you would be surprised on how many toddlers in our church carry around Legos.
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You just contradicted yourself in the same post.

You say that kids in the age range of 8-14 would have trouble building a 14 piece set, but then proceed to say that many 5 year old kids you know build lego sets. Then you also say that toddlers have legos.

[Sammythekat]

@keiththelegokid

You get the same amount of plastic just in less pieces…It’s like Duplo sets.

so, you’re saying that bionicle sets that are structured as duplo sets are good?

the demographic for this line is 8-14. i think that they’d be beyond the simplistic crap of duplo.

@keiththelegokid

Alright, you and I have no problem building those sets, but a kid with an intention span that amounts to less than a minute will. That group of kids is part of the main target group.

i think you’re forgetting, this was sold in 2008, not the iphone-heavy era of 2015-2016,

it’s like you’re saying their insult of our intelligence in that era is justified.

[Ned_Flanders]

@Sammythekat

not the iphone-heavy era of 2015-2016,

The era this toy was released in was when action figures were still popular.

Of course, they still sell now, but not nearly as much as 8 years ago.

[Sammythekat]

@Joe

The era this toy was released in was when action figures were still popular.

Of course, they still sell now, but not nearly as much as 8 years ago

i’m referring to his comment on attention spans, not how well action figure sales.

[Ned_Flanders]

@Sammythekat

i’m referring to his comment on attention spans, not how well action figure sales.

Yes, but it is worth noting that due to a lesser usage of iPhones, action figures and physical toys were more popular. Nowadays, companies get away with $10 action figures with 5 points of articulation. This would not have been the case 8 years ago.

[keiththelegokid]

@Omega_Tahu

You just contradicted yourself in the same post.

You say that kids in the age range of 8-14 would have trouble building a 14 piece set, but then proceed to say that many 5 year old kids you know build lego sets. Then you also say that toddlers have legos.

Having Legos and building legos are different things. The toddlers mainly just clutch these misshapen lumps of brick and mini figures in their hands. I don’t actually see them with any sets. Also I said five year olds get lego sets, I’m pretty sure their parents build them for them.

[Ned_Flanders]

@keiththelegokid

Also I said five year olds get lego sets, I’m pretty sure their parents build them for them.

As someone who’s owned Lego products since they were 2 years old, I can say that by 5 I was definitely able to build sets on my own ability.

[Saxton]

@keiththelegokid

Also I said five year olds get lego sets, I’m pretty sure their parents build them for them.

But aren’t we talking about Solek? You know the 14 piece set with premolded limbs that literally nearly everyone can build?

And I’m pretty sure five year olds can do this. I started building Lego when I was 4 and built my first Titan when I was 5 by myself.

[Omega_Tahu]

@keiththelegokid

@Omega_Tahu

You just contradicted yourself in the same post.

You say that kids in the age range of 8-14 would have trouble building a 14 piece set, but then proceed to say that many 5 year old kids you know build lego sets. Then you also say that toddlers have legos.

Having Legos and building legos are different things. The toddlers mainly just clutch these misshapen lumps of brick and mini figures in their hands. I don’t actually see them with any sets. Also I said five year olds get lego sets, I’m pretty sure their parents build them for them.

Still, clutching misshapen clumps of legos means they understand the concept, and by 5 I bet that they can build most of the set alone. I doubt the parents help much, if at all. Solek is also far less complex than any system set.

[Likus]

Solek is also far less complex than any system set.

Seven pieces man! You can do it!

[Omega_Tahu]

@Likus

Solek is also far less complex than any system set.

http://images.brickset.com/sets/images/4612-1.jpg

Seven pieces man! You can do it!

What is that?..

Ok, obviously I’m wrong about “any system set,” but a very large percentage of them are far more complex. My point still stands.

[Likus]

It’s a jack stone from 2001. No I can name several sets from late 90s Town that are every bit as simple that I grew up with. But I think we can both agree that by 2008 system playsets were on average more complex.

[Rockho]

Even Tahu hates him. He’s slowly raising his Nynrah Ghost Blaster ready to blast him after the photoshoot

[Sammythekat]

@keiththelegokid

But most Bricklink sellers make you pay shipping.

I don’t think i addressed this point, but

sales taxes.

they exist.

that, and if you lump everything together into 1 big order, the shipping can ebcome comparable to the sales tax of your area.

[EvilLobsterKing]

@Rockho

@Mesonak

his mask looks like his cheeks are puffed out constantly

I always thought that his mouth area vaguely resembled a spider web

It is a TIE FIghter…

[Khalsa721]

He had good points (his mask is kinda cool looking.) and it’s all about opinions but here’s a general list

No one really liked the matoran build for that year onwards. Too simple.
Boring colors of white and grey.
Not an interesting peice count unlike some others.
Also 2007+ made peices cheaper and they broke easier then before.

You may love it and that’s fine but that’s most of the reasons others hated it.

[Ghid]

I always thought the mask was fine on its own until I learned it was the noble Akaku

So one reason to hate Solek was for ruining the greatest mask of all time

Another reason is because in g2, there was no Solek

see LEGO is actually capable of learning something here

/sarcasm, plz dont kill meee

[ChaoticTempleKnight]

This topic is about my boy Solek, so I have to say something.

There are several reasons why Solek is hated as a set.

1. Mesonak and his disliking of the Av-Matoran build and Solek’s color scheme
2. Some people forget that there are objectively worse G1 sets (not blaming anyone, I’m just saying)
3. The Av-Matoran build is a sub-par build compared to previous Matoran builds (barring mctoran as they were special sets)
4. Solek is a TTV meme
5. The Solekian joke controversy _{(I guess it’s a controversy…)}

Personally Solek is one my favorite sets (as I pointed out in my set review from a while back). But I recognize his flaws and accept that other people may not like him as a set. I may get a little irked when someone says something like Stars Skrall is better _{and I may have made a huge rant post on Tumblr debunking Solek’s status as the worst G1 set ever}, but it doesn’t matter in the long run.

People like what they like and dislike what they dislike.

[Sammythekat]

@ChaoticTempleKnight

objectively worse G1 sets

like?

[HewksDKowlihad]

like the rahaga I guess, they were trash