Have you seen last Death Battle where Tahu was fighting Kai? What do you think about the result? I believe the character’s popularity was a huge factor here…
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One of the worst Death Battles I’ve seen in a long time. I don’t care who won, the representation of both sides was awful and incorrect. Especially the reasoning for why the winner achieved victory. No understanding of the source material.
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This here is why I honestly dislike the premise of Death Battles. All too often, the episode creators either pick a favorite, or screw up both characters by using a composite of all versions of the character. Reminds me of the Boba Fett vs. Predator episode where Predator wins solely because Fett decides to go for close combat (despite having multispectrum targeting systems, etc. and a remote control link to his ship, which I assume only wasn’t used because the channel didn’t want to actually animate a high-poly Slave I model)… frankly, powerscaling for this kind of stuff is a mess.
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Knowing very little about Ninjago’s expanded lore, I spoke to some people who have casually binged the series and they all agreed the scaling for Kai was horrifically skewed and completely misinterpreted a great deal about the character. The logic for why he wins is also incredibly jank, as it gives him capabilities on the flimsiest justification which, if applied laterally, would also give Tahu the mask of life, completely invalidating the entire fight.
Far more than whether or not one red guy won over another red guy from two overhyped LEGO lines, this is about out of touch long-time nerds barely comprehending two different properties in order to make a flashy video. Tahu as a character is a terrible fit for any realistic matchup because nothing about Bionicle is nailed down to calculable feats or statistics. They presume the golden armor gives Tahu an immense boost in power and capability when there is no metric to base that conclusion on, nor is there a metric to determine the upper limit of a Toa’s strength, or the increase as a result of the Nuva transformation, or anything. It’s entirely guess work, and when they don’t even bother to look up any of the basic information on BioSector01 (which would take all of five seconds), the outcome was obvious.
In a fight between a character with 15 years of televised appearances and a character with virtually no visual reference outside of a minimal direct-to-vhs movie, and while putting next to no effort to understand either of them, who do you think wins?
Boba Fett’s Starship 
Disney sucks 
It’s not like there’s a massive plethora of free digital models of one of the most famous spaceships in all of cinematic history lying around… 
In a legitimate, honest fight between Kai and Tahu, there is no realistic way Tahu loses. But the real losers of the fight was everyone who watched it expecting them to do either character even the slightest amount of justice. It’s not the outcome that’s the problem, it’s the dishonest, detached approach to “evaluating” the characters that leaves everyone disappointed before the episode even airs.
Go watch some other fan-made Bionicle or Ninjago material instead. This one isn’t worth your time.
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I grew up not liking Death Battle. Mainly because I don’t like gore. But when they make a well made product without gore, I can appreciate it (like the Bowser VS Eggman fight).
There was clearly love and detail put into this, at least from an outsider’s perspective. An insider wouldn’t have gotten key details wrong, but I can at least appreciate the research that was done. For example, all the iconic poses Tahu did, or how Kai rises into his Spinjitsu Burst the same way Cole did.
As for the actual outcome, I still think Tahu should have won. On any average day, Tahu has way more power than Kai does. It’s only when we consider Kai having power connected to anything related to the “Golden Power” that Kai could outmatch Tahu. And even then, basing the entire scale off of the explosion from Wrong Place, Wrong Time just feels wrong to me. The golden weapons explode if they make contact, and here we had two sets of them making contact. The whole situation is very unclear. Was it really a star? Delta-5 is a comet. Was a star also created? I wonder if the Lego folks just thought that a comet was a kind of “shooting star.” And can any of that be attributed to Kai when anybody could have been holding the Sword of Fire, even Kruncha?
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according to ninjago greg (tommy) yes.
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I was a bit bothered that they listed all of the Kraata powers since Tahu only has two confirmed ones, heat vision, and quick healing. Also they may have hyped up Kai a bit too much since it was technically four ninja, and eight golden weapons that made that star. I will also like to say I was bothered by the fact they called Mata Nui a planet when they were referring to Aqua Magna, and they didn’t mention he had the Matoran Universe inside him.
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…I haven’t watched this “Death Battle”, but basing anything off Wrong Place, Wrong Time, which is infamously one of the worst episodes in the entire show, seems like a poor idea in general.
As much as I like Ninjago, Tahu should have won any battle between the two; Kai’s hardly the most powerful Ninja.
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I must admit, DB has some of the best fan animators on YouTube doing the animation (including Monty Oum, who’s known for making some of the most impressive fight scenes Blender can handle back in the day).
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I haven’t even watched it and I’m already convinced Tahu would’ve won, solely because the only firepower Kai ever shows is launching a ball here and there. No mastery besides that (as far as I can remember).
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He does have more powerful moments (such as his destruction of Boreal), but, for the most part, yeah, Tahu should have won.
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Prior to viewing such a presentation or reading comments, let us approach this urgent matter with reason.
Kai is a human. Tahu maintains elements of both biological and mechanical world.
However, Tahu draws strength from his Kanohi, whilst Kai bears a natural gift from his father, the previous Master of Fire. If Tahu looses his mask, his control of the fire element is severely weakened. Without training, Kai is a fool with a loaded weapon, but is not particularly powerless.
The verdict stands as thus, the character who demonstrates a higher degree of maturity stands above his opponent.
If anything, the Internets should have been tamed with a display of “Zuko vs. Matoro.”
I had always presumed “Death Battle” was a genre of videos churned at a pace to flood the Interwebs with a rather teen-edge view of pop-culture matches and therefore had not viewed any. This is the most attention I have ever extended towards this channel…and I have still not viewed the exhibition. 
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Tahu has, at different points throughout his existence, access to two different Suvas, which let him mentally swap between a total of twelve different masks with ease. He also has the mask of time and a golden Hau as part of the golden armor.
“Losing his mask” would need to happen fourteen times.
Both characters are known for being impulsive and hot headed. It’s likely Tahu is more mature at the end of his journey than Kai at his current point, but that comes with being the defacto leader of an entire planet.
I mean… yeah kinda 
These sort of poorly-informed matchup videos were all the rage two decades ago, and Death Battle was originally a spoof series that didn’t take itself seriously before taking itself way too seriously for a time. Nowadays they’re the only people left who make content about matchups that anyone invests in thanks to the (most of the time) high-quality animated fight sequences.
Some fights that have been in the cultural zeitgeist for a while, like Goku vs. Superman, have persisted for so long that Death Battle is extremely well informed on the matter and can offer an opinion that is more or less conclusive, but many times they misinterpret or fail to comprehend one or both of the opponents in a matchup, and the end result is flashy, expensive, and a huge waste of time.
And you are much happier than those that have 
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My original explanation stemmed from the belief that each duelist would perform with their default pieces, Toa-Mata Tahu and Pilot Episode/S1 Kai with his Golden Weapon. It appears the Death Match takes into account the entire history of each character. Apologies.
Truly, if anything, should we hope for a fan-film/animation of sorts similar to Batman Dead End to truly flame the creative spark of pitting icons of pop-culture against one another…but this time with far more accuracy.
Allow me to extend blessed tidings to thee, a salve to soothe the rage of silent screams…
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Actually Tahu needs to be wearing a Kanohi to use the Suva to switch them around so if he loses one he cannot access the others.
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After the Bohrok, does a Toa ever have their mask “knocked off”? I know the Piraka steal the masks of the Toa Nuva after they are defeated, but I don’t remember there ever being a moment post 2002 when a Toa loses a mask mid-fight. Losing a mask used to coincide with the actual “knock the mask off” part of the sets, as did its disappearance if I’m correct.
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This is correct.
As soon as LEGO started putting axles in the masks, it became very inconvenient to have story instances promoting smashing things into the characters’ faces. I can sadly confirm the new mask designs don’t tolerate that approach to play very well 
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I enjoyed it. fun video, clearly a lot of heart put into it. both characters did great!
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