Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker Topic

I actually don’t think killing Luke was all that bold. He was bound to die at some point in this trilogy. I also don’t think the way he went out is terrible, just that the context surrounding it was unfulfilling. The actual scene where he dies was, in my opinion, visually, musically, and tonally lovely. Under any other circumstances, it would have been great.

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I suppose so. Yoda was tired of age, Luke was tired mentally. He, Yoda, and Obi-Wan accepted their deaths, allowing themselves to join the Force, hence why they disappeared.

I personally didn’t find Luke’s death surprising, upsetting, or disappointing. Crait really made The Last Jedi for me, and Luke did so much to help that in my eyes.

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How would he get there in the first place? His X-wing was in the water so it was probably beyond use.

It would have taken an immense amount of time and concentration to tip just one AT-M6 over, let alone however many there were. And since it really was just an image of Luke, he likely couldn’t use the force. He even said it himself that he couldn’t take on the entire first order army with a laser sword.

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He’d get off the planet same way Rey did. As for the force like I said even if he died still it would have been so much better if he showed up himself. Also he trained Kylo ren; I’m sure Luke could do a force shield or a larger scale version of kylo freezing that laser in TFA.
For the walkers I think the ground was also soft enough that he could have used force on that rather then the machines; if not damage at Least distract the army long enough for the resistance to escape.

Rey flew there on the falcon. Luke had no ship and he couldn’t have stowed away because Rey never landed until after Luke died.[quote=“Khalsa721, post:290, topic:48011”]
Also he trained Kylo ren; I’m sure Luke could do a force shield or a larger scale version of kylo freezing that laser in TFA.
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Kylo was also trained by Snoke who could have taught him the freeze thing and we have yet to see the limits of that ability. It is possible that a force shielding was implied since Luke was fine after getting hit so much.[quote=“Khalsa721, post:290, topic:48011”]
For the walkers I think the ground was also soft enough that he could have used force on that rather then the machines; if not damage at Least distract the army long enough for the resistance to escape.
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The ground was solid rock or mineral displayed by the crater left by the barrage from the walkers. If the ground was soft, there would have been a gigantic hole in the ground. Finally, Luke did distract the army long enough for the resistance to escape.

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Sorry, I meant to say Luke as a character.

Luke’s arc in TLJ was a perfectly natural evolution of the character. Also, Rian Johnson used Luke to make some rather brilliant meta-commentary about Star Wars fans.

Fight me :stuck_out_tongue:


Slightly more on topic, this trailer has me hyped to TFA-levels.

I enjoyed TFA even though it doesn’t have a tremendous amount of substance. I really liked TLJ and much of the material surrounding it. So between Rise of Skywalker, Resistance season 2, Clone Wars season 7, the Mandalorian and all the other cool projects coming down the pipe, I’m super excited to be a Star Wars fan again.

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Wait, let me tag with it.
You consider Luke’s “arc”, Luke’s new character good?
Because if so, then I really want to have a nerd war debate with you at some point.
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OK you really are on my blacklist now.

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I considered him a stellar character, though I never liked the original in the first place.

Is this worth watching? I can’t even stand the trailer for the first season, I haven’t tried to watch the show.

Original Luke is nothing less than perfect. Maybe just amazing.

Not sure yet. I haven’t seen most of S1 yet (waiting for the DVD release). But the new trailer gives off some late Rebels/Clone Wars vibes and I dig it.

Yes I do. I’ll jot down my full thoughts later today/tmrw when I have more time. But the short version: Luke’s arc showcases his deep character flaws in a way that make him more human and relatable than pre-New Jedi Order Old Expanded Universe Luke often wound up being.

Fans were upset by Luke “going off the deep end” because Luke was the Original Trilogy audience surrogate character. We want our heroes to succeed and have happy endings because we want to succeed and have happy endings (and we often live vicariously through these types of protagonists). A very similar fandom backlash happened when post-The Last Airbender Aang was revealed to be a seriously flawed father who cared more about his cultural heritage than he did about his actual kids.

He certainly has a strong arc in the original trilogy. His ROTJ light/shadow face scene remains one of my favorite shots in the entire saga.

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I don’t thing it’s the place.
I have a lot of problems with what you just said and with your side of the fence as a whole.
If you want we can debate in private.

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Pehaps we should move over here then:

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It certainly skews younger than Clone Wars or Rebels in terms of target audience, and so battle scenes seem a little weird because of it. Stormtroopers have even worse aim than before, lots of fisticuffs and hi-jinks rather than full on “fights”. It takes roughly ten episodes or so to really get going, and judging by the Season 2 trailer, I think I know why. They laid lots of groundwork in Season 1 for character interactions in Season 2 that will be very interesting to watch. So while Season 1 in retrospect might be somewhat tedious to watch at times, I think Season 2 will make the somewhat slow pace of the first season worth it.

The Poe Dameron standalone episodes are where the show shines, and obviously they couldn’t make that the show because Oscar Issac costs money to get in the booth. So instead we get Kaz as a main character, and he’s 100% the weakest link on the show. Like Ahsoka and Ezra before him, he does have the tendency to get annoying, but where those two characters really grew and matured by the end of their shows, I’m not so sure the same will be said of Kaz. We’ll see. One aspect of the show does seem to be false advertising in a sense, where in the early marketing they kept building up these racers and how big of an impact the racers have in the show, and we’re lucky if in most episodes we get 30 seconds of them on screen outside of Torra Doza or Hype Fazon. The others are background characters and hardly have screen time, where one or two maybe have a combined total of five lines throughout the first season. And races are very infrequent, which is odd considering how much the races were talked about.

I think the saving grace of the show might be possible tie ins to other portions of Star Wars media in the second season. I wouldn’t be surprised if Shriv and Zey Versio from Battlefront II popped up at some point, and considering the release window for Season 2, there’s probably going to be some big tie ins the Episode IX, whether that be Poe coming back in some capacity or the cast linking up with the remainder of the Resistance closer to the end of Season 2 so we can get a “here’s where they were in the final battle” moment not unlike The Ghost being seen during the Battle of Scarif. We’ll see. Overall I would recommend it, but it’s certainly not the best animated Star Wars show by a long shot (that’s either Clone Wars or The Freemaker Adventures [and no, I’m not joking]).

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Can we just talk about how Rey’s light saber is the worst transforming weapon I’ve ever seen?


It’s not even hidden and that stupid folding thing?; I guess if you want lose a limb it’s great but oh my god is it bad. There’s a reason most transforming staffs have duel sword modes rather then this Disney. Even most transforming power rangers / kamen rider weapons look good next to this.

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Pong Krell. That is all.

Well, I guess that’s not all. In terms of transportation it makes more sense than having a giant tube attached to your belt slapping your legs like Maul had. And since this design predates the Disney buy out, you can’t blame them for something they didn’t create.

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Ok well I guess I was wrong. Still I don’t think Rey is skilled or trained enough not to lose a limb from it transforming since she’s only ever used a staff and a normal saber.
Also notice how design wise his are closed up at the hilt; her hilt literally is a U shape. At least these are close enough that it kinda makes one big blade vs two complete seperate.

I think this complaint will be rendered moot since it’s probably a dark vision being shown to Rey similar to when she touched the lightsaber in Maz’s castle in VII or in the dark cave in VIII. When it pops up in the sizzle reel, it’s accompanied by similar transition sounds that can be heard behind Vader’s breath that were heard in VII during the saber vision. Those could’ve been placed to throw us off, but time will tell.

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I guess that’s true. Unlike Anakin her actually turning evil would be completely out of nowhere like Optimus in TLK. Still it’s hilarious that years after the clone wars someone designed a worse version of the original design.

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