BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

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And others.

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they all have grey heads.

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I’ve been biased against artwork for the building/artwork phase because I find them more abstract and would rather see the final artwork based on something that is visualized with standard pieces. This image here is giving me great reconsideration, but then the argument could be made that the entry should have used physical models in the first place (though this contest has shown my tastes to be contrary to what the majority of people want).

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Well, it’s kinda monochrome and that’s the reason why I think that this model doesn’t look that good.

Your MOC works so well because it’s actually not monochrome, there are quite a lot of glowing red accents that make it pleasing to the eye.

Okay, there are indeed some monochrome Matoran with no story significance, but I think that my point still stands

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Careful of what you say about my boy Kapura.

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Kapura most definitely had story significance.

So does my Tuyet

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Okay, you win, there is one single monochrome Bionicle character that is worth caring about!
It doesn’t change the fact that I don’t like monochrome colour schemes though, so my point still does, in fact, stand.

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:man_facepalming: dude, are you really saying that those images disprove his point?

And even if you are, all of those are artwork, sprites for a game, with shading that makes them look way more visually interesting. And even with that, they look kinda boring.

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That depends what his point is.

If he’s trying to say “Tuyet shouldn’t be monochrome because no one else is”, then yes, they do.

If he’s trying to say “Tuyet shouldn’t be monochrome because I don’t like the look”, then no. That’s an opinion, and there’s no disproving to be done.

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I care about the Fikou :disappointed:
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At the end of the day, it depend on the MOC itself if monochrome looks good or no, but I agree that is more probable that a non-monochrome Tuyet would look “better” that a monochrome one.

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I believe he’s saying “Tuyet shouldn’t be monochrome because monochrome MOCs look bad”. Which they kinda do. No one’s ever shown me any monochrome build of any pertinent size that looked good without major highlighting.

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Changing the subject from preferences to rules, should be the size be restricted? I remember it was quite open for Helryx, but I think the same restriction should be imposed as for the Hagah: no shorter than Whenua and no taller than Iruini. Maybe she could be one stud shorter or taller, to be more lax, but no titan size Tuyet or Matoran size Tuyet.

Yes, that’s basically what I was trying to say.

What makes a good colour scheme for a Bionicle MOC?

  • Good colour contrasts
  • good colour combinations
  • good colour blocking

With one single colour the things listed above are impossible, meaning that monochrome Bionicle MOCs are objectively inferior to non-monochrome ones.

I think that this discussion is going nowhere at this point, I was hoping that everyone would be discussing the sword I made for my Tuyet, but oh well… so let’s move on to other subjects

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it was quite good

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I think the size should be a guideline rather than a rule.

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Absolutely not. Every point you just gave is completely subjective, as is the choice of whether they’re even necessary.

You’ve made it perfectly clear that you don’t like monochrome MOCs and that’s fine, but don’t try to attach any level of objectivity to your opinion.

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How good a color scheme is is very subjective, so I don’t see the point in arguing about it. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

like Etnurb GoodGuy2006 said, it’s a good design.

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So now we’re debating whether monochrome works or not?

Canonically, monochrome beings do exist. In fact, it’s possible to make a monochrome character look good - even in Bionicle. But if we have the option to make a character with multiple colors - new color schemes, even - why shouldn’t we take the opportunity given?

Rather than argue about how right your opinion is, back it up with a quality build. Hate monochrome designs? Love monochrome designs? Your arguing doesn’t speak nearly as loudly as a MOC will.

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I saw that warning, but I was hoping that some tempered, measured viewpoints on the subject would be allowed. This topic is, after all, supposed to be partially focused on rule feedback:

Hence I’m going to (probably unwisely) risk a little more discussion on the topic. I daresay that constructive conversations about the rules shouldn’t be squelched. If they are, well, I again reserve my right to claim the point of the topic is for feedback.

There’s not really a reason for a canon build to have any specific body type outside generalities (i.e. Toa are humanoid). But yes, you’re right, a curvy build probably would start a big argument even if it were not intended to do so (and here I remind everyone that curvy builds are not automatically intended to provoke people).

I fully agree with this. It would be decidedly odd to put a blanket ban on a canon build method in contests that are specifically, and, I might add, maddeningly scrupulously occupied with adhering to canon. It’s not really fair to say that we should all ignore a canon build and ban further use of it just because a lot of people don’t like it. It is still canon.

That is weird, but I like it. I personally think monochrome color schemes can and often do look good.

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Just like black licorice tasting bad is subjective - it can be generally accepted as a bad thing because an overwhelming majority agrees on it.

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