Are crossbows allowed?
Is CCBS allowed in the Hagah contests, because 100% of my spare parts are either CCBS or Technic
Iâm sure the bones for the limbs at the very least are allowed, as long as the base body is a Metru body. Though youâd have to get very creative with a g2 head if you wanted to use one of those masks
This topic was brought up on the âWho should have a canon contest?â topic, but itâs better suited here:
On this point, I want to bring something up. Greg has said the Hagahâs Toa colors match their Rahagah colors but hasnât said anything about their eye colors. As sets, as well as in the movie and comics, they all have orange eyes, but there is one panel from the comics that differs:
Norik, Gaaki, Iruini, and Pouks all still have orange eyes (although this isnât a problem for Iruini since his Hagah set form has orange eyes). Norikâs Hagah set form has green eyes, although heâs shown elsewhere having red/orange eyes:
But for Bomonga and Kualus in the first picture, they have eye colors other than orange. Kualus has the typical light blue as a Toa of Ice, and same for Bomonga having green as a Toa of Earth. This is also repeated in Comic #24: Shadow Play:
While Gaaki and Pouks are still debatable, I think its safe to say Kualus has light blue eyes, and Bomonga has green eyes, staying with the trends of their respective elements.
Given how Artakhaâs contest had the builds limited to one shade of green due to the scarcity of Sand Green pieces, I wanted to ask if that rule is going to carry forward into future contests with rare colors? My Lariska model has Teal as a primary color with Metru Green as a secondary to back it up, and I would hate to have to change the build now because I can only have one or the other, whenever her contest rolls around.
@Eljay
It wouldnât be that hard. Just combine these three pieces:
And then use a second 2-axle to connect it to the usual neck attachment.
(Or, instead of connecting the first 2-axle to the Technic piece, just use this:
)
sorry what connection are we talking about here?
I think theyâre talking about making a ball connection point for a metru torso for a glatorian/hero factory head. But that doesnât really make sense to me because I thought the decision was to use known Kanohi because of the whole âthey were Kanohi reforged into the shapes of other Kanohi to resemble ancient heroesâ
So I dont think a hero factory helmet would do the trick for them
It was in reference to attaching a G2 head to a Metru torso.
This is true, but nowhere is it stated that they were in the shape of Kanohi that we, the readers, have seen before.
So yes, they are not unique shapes in-universe; they are in the shapes of other âcommonâ Kanohi. But they could be in the shapes of Kanohi that never appeared in story. Greg has confirmed that there are other, unknown-to-us Kanohi powers.
âWhile they have never appeared or been alluded to in official media, Greg Farshtey has surmised that Masks of Fear, Weather Control, Density Control, and Stasis Fields can be created.[9][10][11][12]â
Another option, as someone else once pointed out, is that they could wear Kanohi in the base shape of Makuta masks; when the Toa Hagah were gathered under a team, the Makuta would have been regarded as heroes.
Both of these options would require new Kanohi shapes. Perhaps the G2 Masks of Water or Air could be used; they donât really resemble any G1 Kanohi.
Yes, but I saw lots of controversy around that still. Weâll just have to see how it all plays out
Oh, for sure. But the option is there.
I would seriously advice against this, as its contradictive. You say theyâre in the shapes of âcommonâ Kanohi, but then suggest they could be in the shapes of Fear, Weather Control, Density Control, and Stasis Field. They can be potential masks, yes, but we have never seen these masks in canon, and they could be very rare, perhaps maybe even nonexistent. âPossibleâ does not mean they do exist.
This on the other hand is a rather interesting point that I never considered. However, the only masks worn by Makuta that we know of are the Kraakhan, Phantoka masks (which were shapshifted), the Mistika masks (which were mutated due to the mutagen in the swamp), Mask of Mutation, Olmak (Tridax) and Mask of Scavenging (Icarax). The selection, not including the Phantoka and Mistika masks, is rather limited.
Regardless, whatever masks designs someone chooses for their Hagah entries, if it is a custom design meant to be the standard shape of a canon mask whose shape is currently unknown, these contests do not canonize that shape as matching the power the entrant intended it to. We are only canonizing the appearances of the Hagah, nothing more. A custom mask design would just mean its still an canonically unknown shape.
Perhaps âcommonâ wasnât the best word here. âStandardâ would probably be better. This hypothetical mask may or may not be rare, but there is nothing special about it; it isnât unique. Itâs just another Kanohi shape.
Exactly
Do you mean unknown power?
As in: We know that a mask exists with this as its base shape, but we do not know its power.
Yes
Iâm confused. If you agree these contests donât canonize the standard power of their mask shapes, then why suggest their masks could be in the shapes of those four rare masks? For any custom designed mask, the point is moot. Weâre not assigning standard powers to their mask designs, so whatever the entrant intended, it wouldnât become canon.
What rare masks?
I am suggesting that new shapes could be introduced, with the understanding that they are standard Kanohi shapes for powers that we do not know.
These new shapes could not be the standard shapes of the Hagahâs mask powers, since it has been confirmed that the remaining four Hagah have âwrong-shapedâ masks.
Yes. Whether the entrant intends for the mask to be the standard shape of that Hagahâs power, or a new power altogether, it would not be canon.
The oneâs you brought up, Fear, Weather Control, Density Control, and Stasis Field.
I see.
I never meant that the Hagah masks would specifically be the standard shapes of those exact powers. I brought those up simply as proof that there are Kanohi powers beyond what we have seen in story.
So yes. Even if the entrant says âKualusâs mask is in the shape of a Mask of Fearâ, that would not be canon.
Kualusâs mask would canonically be in the shape of an unknown power, and the Mask of Fear would remain as a theoretical/unseen mask.
As interesting as it is, I think that, since Toa Norikâs eyes do not match his set form, those colors should not be counted as absolutely canon. Also, in the Web of Shadows movie all the Rahagah have orange/red eyes, but then again, the movie is not exactly canon. This a quite nice pick still, but I donât think it should become rule/guideline.
maybe just wait for when the ruleset comes out for the hagah instead of discussing masks to no end.
I added that example to show the comics are not completely consistent.
Right, sets take precedence, and all the Rahaga sets have orange eyes (which is why they also have orange eyes in the movie and mostly in the comics), meaning the Rahaga eye colors have no bearing, since Rahaga Norik had orange eyes, but Toa Hagah Norik had green eyes.
However, while comics are not entirely consistent, they are consistent in their inconsistencies. What I mean is, whenever Rahaga Kualusâ eyes are not orange as they should be, they are always light blue, same with Bomongaâs being green. This is not accurate to their Rahaga forms of course, but I consider it to be a hint to their Toa Hagah eye colors, whether the comic illustrators meant that or not.