BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

Fair point. I’m still leaning towards requiring the art to closely follow the entire MOC, if only on the basis of that being the design that actually won the MOC contest.

Not necessarily the case, I think. There’s a lot of purists who might vote against it if it’s known that it will become the canon design in the art. Also you will likely have more MOCs use standard masks that are entered into the competition.

For the Hagah specifically, I disagree that this will be the case. There are plenty of people who want to avoid introducing new Kanohi shapes.

(Personally, I want some to have new shapes, and some to use traditional shapes. I’m interested to see how this turns out.)

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So what? That’s what we already have - the art being based off of the MOC. It’s just that we’re not currently forcing artists to follow the MOC perfectly. I don’t exactly want to see a ton of clone art, but maybe I’m just a lunatic.

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What do you mean by “clone art”?

You are vastly underestimating the variation in style that people have.

I don’t see how every entry having the same mask suddenly makes it “clone art”, but these last two contests have been fine.

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Based on how previous contests went, I doubt the mask plays that big of a factor. There was only moc with a 3D printed mask during the final round of the Helryx contest, but it wasn’t going to win anyways. There were three mocs with 3D printed masks during the final round of Artakha, only one of which had a realistic chance of winning, and won accordingly.

These are moc contests, not mask contests. Using a custom mask isn’t a cheat code to winning, as shown by previous contests. If your moc didn’t win and happened not to use a certain mask, it was probably going to lose anyways.

The same way not everybody has access to lego pieces, paints, let alone the ability to make a good moc? Don’t you already have to 3D print and paint the canon masks if you want to have the canon design for characters such as Nikila, Surel, Helryx, and Artakha?

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Now that I think about it … probably.

Huh.

Well I guess I am a lunatic then.

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No one is calling you a lunatic, let’s be mature here.

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Wow, you just called me a nobody :laughing:

not that you’re wrong of course but it’s about the principle

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Lol, point is, let’s just simply present the case for our views and avoid being passive aggressive. I think we can all handle a few minor disagreements.

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Listen man comic relief ain’t being passive aggressive.

And seeing as how self deprecation is my single personality trait…

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You aren’t exactly wrong about the art potentially looking like clone art, but, at the same time, this wouldn’t really be any different from the last two contests.

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Ah, humor is hard to read through text.

So this:

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becomes this:

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You are completely neglecting the stylization and other artistic decisions. As others have said, this is an Art Contest, not a mask contest.

Is true, since their mask have different form of the original mask. I will prefer to have new mask design, but I could get behind a Hau Bomonga.

Different will be for other character like Tuyet. I wound’t want that the mask of intagibility have the exact same shape than a Ruru for example.

Given how the past art contests have play out, I doubt we will have clone art just because using the same mask. Many entries used a King’s mask, but they were very different from each other.

That because the mask were place holders. What he is proposing is that MOC mask (original or 3D printed) become canon, and the art have to use that mask.
And again, is a Lego contest. Not having the Lego pieces or the talent sucks, but what else could you do?

I’m not neglecting stylization. I’m making the point that to me - and (again unless I’m a lunatic) a lot of other people - masks are a huge part of the art.

Unless we’re voting for artwork purely based on some cool color gradient. In that case it’s just determined by who has the best Wacom Cintiq.

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Even if we were to imagine that the art from the last contest all had the same mask, some were very clearly better than others.

So what are you going to do when Nidhiki comes around?

You’re not wrong that the masks have been a big part of these last two contests, but there is plenty to think about besides that.

It’s different when a character already has a mask that’s predefined. That’s obvious, at least to me.

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