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We still have to contend with what Ghid mentioned:
Moreover, thereās no reason not to give her such a sword, since thatās the most popular thing to give her, and as such, thatāll decide what wins the contest.
We donāt need to ask Greg about every little thing. Either it should be mandated for reasons stated or it shouldnāt, weāll be deciding the canon for ourselves with this contest.
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I didnāt ever remember a Makuta impersonating Tuyet, so I went back to Dark Mirror to see where the broadsword was mentioned:
Takanuva, Takua, and Turaga Dume walked in single file to the depths of the Archives, followed by the silent Toa Tuyet. The ruler of the Toa Empire had not spoken a word since capturing the three of them, simply gestured with her Barbed Broadsword for them to get moving.
Unless I missed something, a Makuta never impersonated Tuyet, and it was actually her wielding the sword anyway.
I agree, but if the discussion is whether this is something that should be mandated, itās something that should have a definite answer to justify that. If not, then let people use a sword or not if they want to. As you said, āweāll be deciding the canon for ourselves with this contest.ā
Keep reading that chapter.
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Takanuva turned around, but Tuyet was no longer there. Standing in her place was another Makuta, this one wearing a scarred and pitted Kanohi Hau. When he spoke, it was in the familiar, grating voice of the Makuta of Metru Nui.
āA simple strategy,ā he said. āTuyet has left us little choice but to use our shapeshifting powers when we venture out. Even then, we were captured, just as we have captured you.ā
My mistake for simply skimming, although it wouldāve been appreciated if it was directly quoted in the first place.
But still, itās irrelevant. Even if actual Tuyet had a Broadsword in this AU doesnāt mean prime Tuyet also did, which is the point.
All Iām saying is let people decide themselves whether to include it or not in their entries.
I personally think itās extremely likely that her Toa tool in the prime universe was a barbed broadsword, but at the same time, she doesnāt really seem to carry it much. IMO it should definitely be allowed, but not required.
not that a weaponless tuyet is going to win anyway
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What I am about to say I mean respectfully but I know tone is hard to infer over text butā¦
If you arenāt deeply familiar with the lore, then perhaps it is not the best to be the one to try to make mandates for it and leave it to those who have a better understanding.
That being said, I encourage all who vote to do their own readings of the characters in every contest. Really helps create your own mental image and makes the voting process more enjoyable.
It makes it feel more like a character contest rather than a MOC contest.
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I do not think you mean this respectfully and I do take offense to it. I am very much familiar with the lore. Iāve written topics on Protodermis, Toa Armor, and more. The problem is that I fell out of reading fiction (not just Bionicle) many years ago, so there are gaps in my knowledge on certain story details, especially later years, such as from the online serials like Dark Mirror. Whenever that happens, I just reference BS01 when needed.
Second, I literally just said I am for not mandating anything with regards to the sword, either having it or not. You are either not listening to what I am saying or purposefully twisting my words.
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Please I really did not mean it that way. The Bionicle Lore is pretty expanded upon at this point. Iām not saying you donāt have any knowledge on the subject, but its hard to be a spit fire on every category. Sometimes ya just gotta own up when theres parts weāre a lil grey on. I know I certainly have spots in the lore I could go for refreshers on. Its not an insult, just an acknowledgement of knowing our limits on certain topics
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Now, I know this might a controversial takeā¦
But I think Tuyet should be blue.
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Iām not sure why everyoneās jumping on me so hard about this. The question was to see where peopleās opinions are at, and I gave my opinion. Iām not trying to claim that my opinion is objectively correct, or even try to convince anyone to switch to my belief: someone wanted to see what the general consensus was, and I helped out.
For every picture you guys show me of a Toa with metallic colours, I can show you a Toa that doesnāt have metallic colours; both options are completely valid, and I donāt think it should be that controversial of a statement to say āI donāt want Tuyet to have certain coloursā.
Believe me, Iāve really started to notice that I might not have the same tastes in colour as everyone else, even before every creative attempt Iāve shared here gets raked over the coals for the colour scheme. However, I donāt think that means I deserve to be insulted for sharing my thoughts, and it definitely doesnāt mean that you guys can intentionally misrepresent my argument just because you disagree with one of my other opinions:
(Also, yeah; Iām not going to take constructive criticism on the single aspect of the design that was my entire motivation to build it in the first place. If Iām going to abandon that, Iād rather just see what other people have.)
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You sir will be drawn and quartered; implying that a blue toa should be blue is worthy of death and your opinion has shattered my soul and destroyed my resolve and I will now go cry into my shrine of three galidor pieces and a broken gavla mask
(this is sarcasm. but I do have a broken gavla mask)
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Greg stated that Tuyetās weapon would be revealed in the story serials.
There is a 99.815% likelihood that he intended Tuyet - prime, alternate, and composite, every Tuyet ā to wield a Barbed Broadsword.
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Iām thinking of having Tuyet with a metru blue and black colorscheme, what do you guys think?
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oh my goshness you guys
can we not?
also what is this word? Couldāve sworn is was spelled with an f but Ghid never makes typos. Someone please tell me
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It should be Faux.
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Daring today arenāt we?
(Though Iām leaning on a darker color scheme too)
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You are correct, that was my cajun goofin on me
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yes itās faux not pheaux but the original authorās literary decisions must be honored in further transcripts of the piece
for ghid it was a bit of a pheaux pas
alright guys I think Iāve figured out what Tuyetās color scheme should be
black/dark bluish black with metallic black highlights
Tuyet is the first goth toa of water
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I donāt recall but, is it established that the characters of the Toa Empire Universe look different from their main universe counterpart? I always imagined the Toa Mata looking the same but with and evil beard
If so, I think it is likely that prime Tuyet have the same weapon than empress Tuyet.
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