Who says she even needs a torso? I see Tuyet as an abstract jumble of parts!
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âI am destruction and I will destroy youâ
- Tuyet obviously
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I think youâre confusing Teridax with Tuyet⌠
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I simultaneously agree and disagree with this, to be honest. I think itâs definitely not an unreasonable ask to impose a height restriction, and I would encourage having some sort of maximum height ceiling to prevent like, a five foot technic nightmare that would dry up bricklink altogether from being entered. But given that A: the canon sets lacking a consistent scale across years means asking for strict adherence seems kinda silly to me, and B: Especially with rarer colors (like teal with Lariska), a smaller selection of piece types to design around means there is less flexibility in building, I feel like such restrictions should still be fairly lenient. Especially in the case of characters like Tuyet and Lariska, who would most likely have been titan models if released officially, regardless of their in-universe size. (again see Takanuva 08) So while I feel like there are extremes that should be forbidden, on the whole I donât think thereâs merit in imposing undue limitations that might just as easily stifle a creative vision rather than encourage it. Takanuva 08, IMO, is the perfect upper limit.
Also, seconding this.
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I say we avoid any height discourse by making her an agori build. No need to worry about scale when we have 
Tuyet STARS.
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wow that piece actually works really well for a minifigure scale barbed broadsword
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I see we have a clear winner for the canon contests!
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Which is what I did for my (wip) tuyet
(looking forward to entering her)
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that looks pretty neat
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and before anyone says it, she doesnât look too evil, sheâs just Lhikanâs goth gf 
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Thatâs really cool, though I hope you plan to unify the color in the left forearm 
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Yep, that looks quite nice. I like the shoulder armor!
Is the elbow articulation okay though?
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thatâs the plan, just waiting on a bricklink order from Italy.
(Turns out the italian post is notoriously slow and my package has been stuck in a sorting plant since nov 25th)
the same order has red eyes and a kiina fin in black so her entire skirt is the same colour. Along with the parts to make all of her armor, and mask black, which might be a change I make.
the shoulder is a bit limited, but the elbow has more or less standard range
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Here is a question for you all, looking for deliberation on this headspace.
Currently, weâre unsure how much we want to mandate the sword. Iâve heard the argument that since it was only seen with Dark Mirrorâs Teridax doing an impersonation of her, that it shouldnât be mandated as an item for entries. At the same time, it should be noted that the characters native to that universe did not react unusually to Teriyet wielding said sword, which could suggest itâs normal. The question then becomes: Did any other character feature a weapon change from their set/default? The answer to that question would help inform how required it should be.
As an aside, weâre still unsure how we want to go about handling the Nui Stone. Speaking personally, Iâm not favorably inclined toward its inclusion, since itâs just a stone that glows when absorbing power. That said, I know a lot of people associate it with Tuyet, and may want an appearance for it finalized. I could see a decent compromise being the allowance of it, but not the mandating of it. What do you all think?
Additionally, I wanna run something else by everyone to get a temperature check. Weâd like to allow folks to re-enter their entries from the Helryx contest, so long as the weapons are changed from what was required for Helryx. The obvious exceptions would be anything that would violate the rules or had been previously DQâd. Entries would of course be allowed to make other modifications to improve/alter their Helryx entries to fit more in-line with what they believe Tuyet to look like.
The reason for this is because this is a Toa of Water with no strict restrictions, and even less than Helryx had. There were a lot of Helryx entries which (if certain modifications were made) could make just as good or better entries for Tuyet. This also helps reduce strain on those that may want to enter this contest but donât want to go through the effort of designing an entirely new Toa of Water.
Please share your thoughts and opinions, we appreciate the deliberation!
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Honestly my take would be to mandate a broad sword, and leave it up to the builder to decide if they want to make it barbed or not. I feel like thatâs a fair compromise?
I get why you would want to do this but I canât say Im really in favor of it. Iâd prefer to see new fresh MOCs
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I am firmly of the opinion that Greg would not have said her tool would be revealed in a serial if he meant that AU Tuyet would have her tool revealed in her serial. As far as Iâm concerned, the sword is canon, and she should at least be depicted with it in the art.
A lot of people would like it. I agree with allowing and not mandating.
I disagree with this. If it was designed to be Helryx, it is, by definition, not designed to be Tuyet, and so, in my opinion, it should not be accepted without major changes.
EDIT: Then again, not many of the Helryxes were really designed to be Helryx, were they? Iâm not sure where I stand, I suppose. It just doesnât sit right with me letting someone design a MOC as Helryx and enter it as Tuyet, even if many contestants in that contest disregarded the rules.
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Does the Helryx rule extend to Gaaki?
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Off-Tangent General Argument
Iâve always thought that, given Gregâs writing/visualization style, saying âthis was never explicitly mentionedâ doesnât really make sense as an argument. It was used in the Artakha contest to argue against allowing secondary gray, it was used in the Helryx contest to argue against allowing tubes, and it was used earlier today to argue against Tuyet being larger than an average Toa. But the reality is that Greg had little to no idea of what notable features a character did or didnât have, so the lack of description of a feature shouldnât necessarily mean that itâs not there.
However, even if we accept the other characterâs lack of described reaction as proof that the sword was fitting with her character, thatâs only part of the argument; the other part is that Teridax was impersonating an alternate Tuyet. Even if Tuyetâs weapon in that universe is the Barbed Broadsword (which everyone Iâve seen here seems to completely agree with), that doesnât necessarily mean that itâs her prime weapon. Heck:
In that same serial, Alternate Pohatu wielded a large axe as a weapon.
I agree that the Nui Stone itself probably isnât really anything special, visually speaking. However, the same thing could also be said about Helryxâs mace or Artakhaâs hammer; just as Helryxâs armament is a mace and a shield, Tuyetâs inventory has included the Nui Stone in both of her major appearances, and that should be reflected here.
If anything, the Stoneâs basic description makes it better to include in this contest, since we can get an official appearance of an important, powerful object without having to go through six weeks of a contest for various red rocks.
I donât really think this needs to be any kind of special case; the rules already allow for submission of old MOCs. As long as the MOC fits the rules, it should be allowed; I donât see why its history should be taken into account.
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I see no issue with this. If a moc fits the description of Tuyet, it should be permitted, regardless of its original intended purpose.
Iâm not a huge fan of this option. It seems a bit random to me to mandate a sword and not require it to be barbed, since Tuyet is never described as wielding a non-barbed sword. Why mandate a sword as opposed to any other weapon?
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