for height idk what she would be, so I just made my Tuyet a metru build
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The thing also about Tuyet is we never really got any description besides āblueā and Matoro recognizing her āToa Armorā. The safe bet is Metru but I wouldnāt be opposed to something different.
Nidhiki though is a different story, since he needs to at least resemble a Metru Toa. Lariska has not only killed or fought other Toa so her not recognizing that he wasnāt from Metru Nui means one of two things:
1). Nidhiki has a resemblance to a Metru Toa that was close enough to mistaken Lariska.
Or
2). Lariska was informed that Turaga Dume, the Turaga of Metru Nui, would be guarded by Toa so she assumed they were all Toa of Metru Nui. This one wouldnāt make sense because they knew that the city had no Toa when they released the Kanohi Dragon.
Not sure if Iām a fan of that but Iāll have to wait and see the comparison.
Edit: Hakann also seems to only notice his Mask, Armor color and Scythe as being different from other Toa, which is strange if he was a non-Metru build.
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The problem I see with this is that itās completely arbitrary.
First off, thereās the possibility of models being built in other scales. Even if we ignore that, and assume that all models will be built in a pre-existing āToa scaleā, thereās no canon reason for either of the Toa you mentioned to be the limits of a Toaās height. Heck, I can build a taller Toa than Nuparu Mahri just with standard āInika-build piecesā.
On what grounds do you say that?
The only notable moment I can recall related to that rule is when it wasnāt checked at all and resulted in one of the biggest controversies of the contest.
And speaking of Bomonga, if the entry was built with Vahki legs like so many people are wishing it was (and are doing in their own replicas), then it wouldnāt have met the minimum height requirements; that wouldnāt seem like a reasonable disqualification to me.
Are the Dark Hunters confirmed to be Metru-scale since thatās when the Dark Hunters book came out? Because if not, scaling with them is kind of tricky.
This is confirmed by the Greg Quote that she is āthe size of a Toaā.
(Assuming that she is built in Inika-scale)
Personally, though, I would like her to scale with the Nidhiki model, which I am turn hoping will scale with the Lhikan set; she made her debut alongside a bunch of Metru-scale characters in Time Trap, and her storylines with Nidhiki are, in my opinion, some of her most important (although she was also working with Hakann for most of that time as wellā¦).
Yeah, Iām hoping that they scale with the Gelu set.
Or it just means that the design of Toa armour isnāt region-specific, and that most Toa have unique aspects to their armour, which I think is the most likely option. We call the Metru build the Metru build because it was first used on the Toa Metru, but that doesnāt mean that itās accurate in-universe; one of the earliest examples of a āMetru buildā Toa is Lhikan, or possibly Dume, neither of whom are native to Metru Nui. Also, all six of the Toa Hagah have āMetru-styledā armour, and none of them are from Metru Nui either.
And hereās another thing; even if we assume that Lariska was assuming a āMetru buildā, thereās so much more that contributes to a Toaās appearance besides their torso; the armour pieces would be more important to a Toaās appearance in-universe than their torso shape, and those are much more variable. So unless Lariska was, for some reason, expecting Nidhiki to have exact, specific, armour designs, thereās really no reason for her to be surprised.
Not really; those are also some of the most iconic (and objectively-describable) aspects of a Toaās appearance.
And again, unless we assume that every single Toa has identical armour designs except for a select few, it doesnāt really mean anything to point out that a character wasnāt described as being unique.
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Ok so starting off, hereās the Samurai Arguement: Youāre a European Knight whoās only ever seen knights before. Sure some of them look a little different or have strange helmets or weapons but none have ever deviated to the point that it surprised you. One day a Samurai shows up, wearing strange armor that looks vastly different from anything youāve ever seen. If you were describing him to someone else, you wouldnāt just mention his armor was green and he carried a Scythe. Youād mention the strange armor.
I agree, but using a build that deviates significantly from Metru would probably be noticed by others. Vakama pointed out Krakuaās armor for a reason.
Thatās a good point. However the fact she was surprised still asks the question āwhy?ā. If not for the Armor, then why did he was a Toa of Metru City? The DHs knew that there were no Toa pre-Kanohi Dragon so Lariska making that mistake seems strange to me.
As I said above, Armor can have differences in it and still be considered that same typed. If Nidhiki was wearing something different you think Hakann, (who 5 minutes later, saw Lhikan and didnāt describe a difference) would have noticed it.
Sorry Iāll be back in a bit, stuff came up.
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Because the only instance of the rule being broken happened by a guy who A. generally didnāt take the contests seriously and is now barred for future participation and B. Everyone else somehow managed to follow the rule and in every sense of the word quite simple to follow.
And as I very clearly laid out Iād prefer it if it was a rule but a highly engouraged guideline instead is also welcomed.
Iām going to continue to believe and act upon that these contest should have certain restrictions in place. As too much freedom leads to joke entries(Hoseryx) but yes too much restrictions also leads to joke entries like(Fat Gaaki).
However a height restriction is nothing that will affect anything too much. Letās be real, enforcing a build or what exact parts you can use is way more restricting.
We donāt want an as restrictive contest like the Hagah unless for maybe the metrutoran nui. However a too loose contest wonāt do anyone any favors either at that point we can just go back to the previous status quo and let everyone decide their own canon.
Edit: on the topic of the Vahki leg Bomonga, its not canon anyway so that is a mute point
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No, they are not native to Metru nui.
Dume,
Lhikan,
It comes out in the introduction to Birth of a Dark Hunter.
āhis adopted homeā
Hmm- I was very dissatisfied with the clause that toa hagah should not be taller than Iruini,
and that made me have to completely recreate Gaaki.
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To be honest, we donāt have to discuss the build. There will be no such build restrictions in the future.
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That a Toa is Toa sized is no new info though
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And there we go. I wish you all good luck!
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Do you think Iāll get flak for entering a metru build?
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That quote is about Metru. I wanted to say that Tuyet and Nidhiki donāt have to be Metru build restrictions.
ahh, height ruleā¦ i m still suspicious, I think Hagah contest will remain a great exception compared to the remaining contests.
anyway I want a tuyet moc that separates waist well.
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Has anyone considered that Lariskat said āyour cityā because he was actively defending Metru Nui? And is surprised when he doesnāt show loyalty to it and replies āIām just here because my teammates areā?
He also said it was similar to carvings heād seen of other Toa from the past.
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I donāt think youāll get flak for it but itāll probably get passed up for more interesting builds. Still, have fun and feel free to enter what you want. This contest is supposed to be fun, after all.
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I was just using Vahki-leg winning Bomonga as a popular example that most people will know of, not specifically because the original entry won the contest. My point is that such a build would have been disqualified under the arbitrary height restriction, and similar examples will arise under any such limits. Do you believe it would be reasonable to disqualify such a build for that reason?
Thatās what I said.
I donāt think it will make or break your entry; as much as people here have said they donāt want a Metru build, there are still people who specifically do want a Metru build for Tuyet. The popularity of your entry will also depend on the rest of the build, and the creative decisions made.
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The real controversial question is whether or not to give Nidhiki a cape/cloak
Crud. Thatās a really good point. Well I got some thinking about his design to do then
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The Hagah contest aside, I donāt think anyone would seriously go after you if your Tuyet was a Metru build, since itās always been fairly popular to interpret the remaining Toa Mangai in that style.
Now that I think about it, since the Hagah are all Metru builds, it makes sense to me to believe that the Metru style was a fairly common interpretation of what a Toa looked liked at the time; before the Toa Metru themselves, there are no less than seven different Toa originating from seven different teams that share this same basic appearance, so itās not unreasonable for me to guess that a not insignificant number of the Mangai also share this build.
Am I calling for a mandate? Absolutely not. Iām simply stating that, to my understanding, it would make sense for Tuyet and Nidhiki to be Metru builds as well.
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dam- neither neither neither
Please forgive my poor Eng
Make her arms and legs with Metru Torso.
Oh I bought some cloth for his cape, but I lost.lol
I think itās no problem. It was possible for Arthaka and Kualus
Would it be too much to give him the image of the Grim Reaper?
Iāve already almost made him a skeleton.
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Iām trying to find my 2nd Vezon cape to make a hood for him, but so far heās looking pretty good.
Iāll upload a pic of the WIP in a few minutes.
Edit: Here he is:
Currently waiting on parts/looking for parts but heās 75% complete. Placeholder mask of course.
Also lore reasons for why the cape disappears as a spider, it keeps hitting him in the face when he flies so he leaves it in his room
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Not neccesarily but I donāt believe a kardas or mctoran size toa should be allowed either.
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Happy 7500 canon contest discussion and questions posts everyone! 
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Oh crud this is a great honor
Iād like to thank my Turaga and my team who supported me the entire time.