BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

He probably requested Nidhiki as part of the team because he knew Nidhiki was a Dark Hunter and suspected the DHs were involved.

Lesovikk’s team were the first Matoran to ever become Toa, so my wonder is… are their Toa looks thanks to Glatorian warriors, Orde or somebody else?

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Not necessarily. They were just the first to band together as a team.

But yeah, the first Matoran turned Toa were probably based on the first Toa, or some sort of default. I doubt they ever met Glatorian.

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Nidhiki wasn’t a dark hunter tho?

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Yeah the DHs had no idea who he was before BOADH

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Well, not yet anyway. But he was later.

then what point were you trying to make?

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Nidhiki’s future affiliation with the Dark Hunters is why Dume called him.

how does that make any sense?

Well maybe Dume read it in the stars?

Joking aside, this as far as we know is their first time meeting. Unless Dume met Nidhiki before, he wouldn’t have known his character. Even still Nidhiki wasn’t outright malicious, just sorta sketchy

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Easy, Dumb knew that Nidhiki was gonna be a DH, so he wanted him in Metru Nui for the Toa-Dark Hunter War.

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how tho, and why intentionally pick a guy if you know he’s destined to betray you

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The same reason Onewa kept Ahkmou in Po-Koro. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

I think a much more reasonable explanation is that dume simply hand picked the mangai and nidhiki happened to be a toa he was aware of and felt could protect metru nui.

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Rac, quit trolling. Student, don’t feed the troll.

I think he singled out Nidhiki just because he was the other Toa sitting on the window sill with Lhikan and not floating on a Vahki in the background. He might have known Tuyet, but she was further away and possibly harder to recognize.

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ā€œThese eleven Toa came from many different islands, and while some had been members of Lhikan’s team in the past, the rest were summoned by Lhikan to answer Dume’s call and fight against the Kanohi Dragon, which the Dark Hunters had unleashed on Metru Nui.ā€ Toa Mangai - BIONICLEsector01

Dume did tell Lhikan to summon certain Toa. Either that or Lhikan somehow knew the names of the Toa he wanted to call

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Since the ā€œsouthern hunaā€ idea is passing around, I’d nominate this for a fitting shape.
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What about the 2 Glatorian pilots within? They were mentioned in Reign of Shadows, i also heard they died due to the Great Cataclysm.

He went in a dark path after the battle agaisnt Tuyet ocurred with Lhikan over the Nui Stone, he then betrayed the Toa Mangai while negotiating with Lariska by having the Dark Hunters cornering them in one spot by the numbers until Naho arrived in time with an army of 1000 Toa or so. Hakann told Lhikan about Nidhiki and Lariska’s deal in exchange for the makoki stone (i think that was). After the defeat of the Dark Hunters, Lhikan told Lariska to take Nidhiki with him and never come back after he pretended like he did nothing wrong. Nidhiki became an insectoid looking being after Roodaka blasted him with a rothuka spinner of mutation when she revealed the plan to The Shadowed One to gain his trust and training. And was a move to make sure Nidhiki never leaves Odina, for being ugly and scary to others. Once a Dark Hunter ALWAYS a Dark Hunter.

I dunno; the wording doesn’t say that Dume chose them, just that they ā€œanswered the callā€. Could be Dume just called for a bunch of Toa, probably specifying Ice Toa since Lhikan brought four of them. Neither the encyclopedia nor Legacy of Evil says either way.

They were in stasis in a room no one from the MU was ever supposed to access. Plus, when the Hagah find them, Miserix specifically says he’s never seen anything like them.

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We don’t know this.

What we know is that Dume saved Lhikan as a Matoran 17,500 years ago and later ā€œhad a handā€ in him becoming a Toa, but that didn’t happen until over 10,000 years later.

This is a pretty wild assumption, but it also doesn’t really answer the original question of how Dume knew Nidhiki. Dume didn’t summon Nidhiki because of ā€œDark Hunter reasonsā€, he did it because the city needed protection.

Whether Dume wanted protection or because he wanted to connect Nidhiki with the Dark Hunters (which is, again, a completely baseless and couterproductive assumption), it doesn’t tell us how he knew Nidhiki in the first place.

That’s not what I get from that quote.

My understanding, based on the sources attached to that statement on BS01, is that Dume asked Lhikan for help, and then all of the other Toa were recruited to the cause strictly by Lhikan. Also, some of the Toa were already on Lhikan’s existing team when the call came, and we can gather from The Many Deaths Of Toa Tuyet that Tuyet was likely one of these Toa.

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Lhikan nodded. ā€œThere’s been another death. Tuyet, I know you don’t like Nidhiki, so I left him behind. You and I have been friends for thousands of years. We’ve traveled together, fought together, and once almost died together. If you know something about what’s going on, you have to tell me.ā€

EDIT: Actually, we can’t; other parts of that story suggest that Tuyet came to Metru Nui directly from her homeland without much involvement from Lhikan. It’s possible that they could have been friends while still being on separate teams, and that the near-death experience came at a time when Toa were more organized, and cooperated with other teams as referenced in No One Gets Left Behind.

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