dark blue
with shield
nice moc
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I have no backlog.
I also donāt know whatās happening with this chat.
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Considering the other Toa Hagah were required to have the same shield as Norik and Iruini, I wouldnāt be surprised if the same held true for Varian.
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I think it makes sense if she had the same shield (being on Norikās team), but the only reason the Hagah all carried uniform shields was to put up an imagine of professionalism and uniformity as the Makutaās guard detail. That doesnāt necessarily have to be the case outside the Hagah.
Edit: personally in circumstances where things like this are not set in stone, we should leave as much ambiguity as possible to allow for creative freedom with the contests. The more we try to pinpoint the specifics of a Toaās weapon, appearance etc., the more we completely ruin the creative aspect of the contests.
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The anachronousity of No One Gets Left Behind makes this tricker to interpret as well. Strictly speaking, Norik shouldnāt have had his Hagah shield yet. Even if we assume that Varian and Norik had the same shield, that doesnāt necessarily have to be the Hagah shield.
I almost want to just say āNorik must have had a different shieldā and leave it at that, but he also had his Lava Spear in this story. Unless Norik somehow used to have a second, different, spear capable of launching magma, he must have had his Hagah gear in this story, which makes this whole thing basically impossible to definitively interpret.
(Unless my theory that he was previously a member of a different Hagah team is correct, but that has no bearing here)
While weāre on the topic, I figure Iāll also point out something that has always stood out to me about those shields:
Varian exhaled deeply; wicked looking blades suddenly sprouted from her elbows, and a massive spear appeared on Norikās back. Both carried shields that seemed to radiate light, despite the oppressive darkness.
This makes me think that the shields are not Hagah shields: I understand that their shields probably arenāt literally glowing in the above quote, butā¦ was āradianceā ever a key part of the Hagahās shields? I donāt remember the shields ever being singled out for exceptional brightness, or purity, or for even being a symbol for goodness; nothing that would justify describing them as āfighting the darknessā. I would expect a description like that for the Avohkii, not the Hagahās shields.
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there is this Greg quote Iāve seen, not sure of the citation tho
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Hereās the source quote:
However, I have also found two quotes saying that the spears were part of the āHagah upgradeā:
Ultimately, despite the usual precedence of āfirst answer is canonā, I would trust the second answers more, as they are more definitive.
Although, once again, No One Gets Left Behind throws a wrench into things. Published story usually takes precedence over Greg Quotes, in which case Norikās spear and shield would be considered accurate, but this particular story wasnāt written by Greg. Where does that rank on the ladder of canon precedence?
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I feel like one possibility is that the spear and shield were Norikās tools, and he mandated that uniform loadout for the team.
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Worth noting is that both quotes ask about all of the Hagah having spears/shields; even if Norik already had a spear/shield, itās still true that the Toa Hagah got new tools.
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Soā¦okayā¦
We know for a concrete fact that Norik had the same equipment prior to his Hagah membership. Whether the other hagah did, we can speculate, but there is straight up not an answer for sure due to conflicting quotes. Even if Greg himself decided to step in and give a definitive answer, it wonāt matter for the topic at hand: Varian.
Varianās unusual. Varian was created entirely by someone not-greg. Greg didnāt have any larger intention or thought when creating varian, as he just wasnāt involved. So we canāt really try to draw on authorial intent or anything like that.
So, for the shieldā¦I personally want a hagah shield required. Thatās pretty clearly what this author intended. But I canāt justify it. And since I canāt justify it, āshield that shoots rhotukaā might be all we can define for sureā¦and that could be cool, tbh.
One thing I wanna throw out there: this is, again, the only character weāre dealing with not created by Greg. Itās a different author.
Has that author said anything extra-textual about Varian? Would asking them be prudent? in either case: would their answers even matter?
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If this is the same Shadow-Nui account, if they did say anything, it probably has been lost to time.
On Brickshelf, there is a Shadow-Nui account as well.
While it has nothing on Varian, it appears to have entries for other contests. And with the avatars, along with the content on the BZP account, it seems to match this Eurobricks account.
https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/profile/2397-s-n/&do=content&change_section=1
Unfortunately, I donāt see any useful information inside. On his Brickshelf, if the avatars are only for his accounts, there are other potential names to search. However, I didnāt notice anything during a brief look. Again, assuming this is the same person who won the contest.
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Okay, if thereās no easy to find quotes (in, say, a bzp post), and if it doesnāt appear heās active in a bionicle community, then I think itās safe to say that thereās no additional quotes to find, and we should assume he doesnāt wish to be involved.
The question of whether or not any additional quotes/his extra-textual input would have mattered at all is still up in the air, but itās a pure thought experiment question now, as Varian is a unique case.
That answers that.
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Whatever SN intended for the story, only the story is canon, not their intentions.
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SN is still the author and creator of the character though, if they could be contacted, having their input on the character would be an interesting resource to have, even if their words wouldnāt have any canon binding.
EDIT: I agree if anything they have said is found, it shouldnāt be mandated for the contest though, I donāt think anyone would say that. I just think their input might be interesting.
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A lot of people seem to be using the khingk sword for Tuyet entries, which is a cool piece, but the barbs are facing the wrong way ā based on the description, they should be facing the handle.
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Arenāt 3D printed parts just placeholders though? We havenāt had one come through yet, but iirc they follow the same laws as 3D printed masks. So, wouldnāt it be fine if someone decided to use KhingKās version of the sword?
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it looks really really cool
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But does anyone really care?
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I mean ā¦
Yes, some people care. Thatās obvious to the point of making your comment sound malicious. That said, there is a difference, I would say, between ādoes this make real-world senseā and āthis should be a mandated ruleā.
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Oh, Winger, you silly goose.
The 9,000 replies in this topic are from people who donāt care at all how the contest is run or what requirements are created for the contest. Every post is just a blasĆ© expression of noninterest. Clearly you havenāt been reading closely enough. Not a single soul cares, and theyāve spent 9,000 long and carefully-crafted essays explaining that to the lowest and least-effortful of their ability.
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