BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

I mean, its actually the reason why I got his mask for my moc but chose not to buy the sword as well.

Each barb goes downward before going up, so I feel like it’d still deal extra damage when pulled out of a target, as it is described. Whether or not those barbs are curved or not could be disputed, however.

As a personal preference, I would like to see a different design for the tool.

I cannot provide an official response, but I feel that if they could be placeholders, then there’d be no point in necessitating the sword in the moc portion at all.

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The larger prongs facing outward would (in addition to making the weapon much harder to push into something) create such a bloody mess on the way in that the additional damage on the way out would be negligible if present at all.

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I imagine the difference is that custom swords will be mandated in the art portion, seeing as they’re not 3D printed. The whole reason the 3D printed parts have to be placeholders is that BS01 won’t allow unofficial Lego parts to be allowed on a official Lego wiki.

Really hope this won’t be a rule.

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maaaaaaaybe…

The answer is: no one knows, not even Eljay.

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But it’s the artwork that’s canonized. They wouldn’t have any issue with a drawing of a 3d piece, like how they didn’t have an issue with Artakha’s mask.

Unless I’m misunderstanding.

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In addition even if a brand new custom sword was made, it’ll just spawn 3D prints anyway.

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It’ll be mandated for the art. So at the very least, any MOC Sword not featuring backwards facing barbs would be subject to replacement.

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The thing is, “3d printed masks” don’t really have their own rule; all masks are placeholders, regardless of whether they’re custom or not.

It’s also difficult to compare masks with weapons; with masks, the final design basically has to be custom, which is the basis for the MOC mask being a placeholder. For weapons, though, they can be custom or purist without much challenge either way.

I recall a very early statement saying that 3d-printed weapons could be replaced while purist weapons couldn’t, but I get the feeling that the attitude on that has shifted with experience. I would argue against that ruling in the same way I did for the Hagah masks when a similar rule was proposed in that contest: all masks/weapons should be treated the same, regardless of origin.

Whether that means all swords are placeholders or all swords must be kept in the art doesn’t really matter to me, but it should be consistent. Maybe a Hagah-style consent system?

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Maybe it could work in a similar way it did with the Hagah spears. Only placeholders as long as the builder is ok with it or wants it changed.
There might be people who want to use a design that doesn’t exist as a 3D model. For example, I wanted to use this sword I drew, but since I don’t have a 3D model, I can’t enter it. And since not everyone has enough skill to participate in the art portion (including me), it can’t be used. But it could be left as a suggestion for the art portion if the sword is allowed to be changed.

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… would you guys say my sword has the barbs facing the right way?

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Yeah. The ones that are part of the Kurahk staff definitely are. The ones in the middle are a little more questionable, but I’d say they’re close enough.

The bigger question is whether or not they’re curved. I’d, again, say yes, but it’s definitely less obvious than their direction.

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I used this sword design for my Tuyet, I’m curious as to people’s opinions on whether this would count as a “barbed broadsword” and if those are angled the correct way.

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Cool design, and I’d say the actual “barbed” parts qualify.

They’re angled the correct way but they also seem very chonky for barbs. That said, I don’t want to limit people’s options.

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I feel like any blade with a serrated or jagged edge could do damage when pulling out, though I will concede that barbs pointed toward the hilt would be the most efficient in this area. Even so, I don’t particularly like this revelation because I’d rather not use a custom printed blade if I didn’t have to and coming up with a design that both looks good and conforms to its descriptions has proven difficult.

Does this mean that entries that have a sword that doesn’t 100% conform to the barbed broadsword’s description (such as how mine uses a Brutaka blade as the blade and places some barbs along the hilt) are still good under the stipulation that the sword’s design will be changed if they win?

I meant to ask this earlier, but what is the reasoning for this? I have never seen a quote specifying the direction of the barbs.

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Yes.

This quote. The only direction that curved barbs would do more damage if removed would be if they were curved toward the hilt, like a fishing hook.

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Well, that was a first.

To be honest, I was just sharing my opinion, thought it would lead to some discussion. Wasn’t expecting lj to pop in and say “you’re right, and also we’re making it a rule”.

I do think the handle facing barbs makes the most sense, though.

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I’ve seen that quote before, but I’ve always thought it just meant “the barbs do extra damage compared to a sword with no barbs”, rather than “the barbs are arranged for extra damage compared to other arrangements”. It never even occurred to me that the quote might be referring to a specific orientation.


I do also agree with this from a subjective standpoint, though: