BIONICLE G1 Canon Contests Discussion & Questions

[TheJerminator]

@Takutanuva

She may have just gotten the rhotuka as part of the arm and just decided she never had use for it in the story that we know

Alright, sure. Let’s say that, hypothetically, Lariska has a mechanical Rhotuka Launcher built into her arm, but she was never willing and/or able to learn to use it.

What difference does it make?

Whether she doesn’t fire Rhotuka because she doesn’t have a Launcher, or she doesn’t fire Rhotuka because she simply can’t, the firing function on the model would be equally non-canon.

[Takutanuva]

@TheJerminator

Whether she doesn’t fire Rhotuka because she doesn’t have a Launcher, or she doesn’t fire Rhotuka because she simply can’t, the firing function on the model would be equally non-canon.

Yep. Thats all I was saying. That the fact that she can make rhotuka just like most other beings doesn’t have to be relevant. I’ve said it before up above in previous comments but if Greg doesn’t want rhotuka to be relevant or functional, then it isn’t.

[Tarkur]

This is just a theory:

Lariska lost her arm as punishment from tso. She was also given a new arm by a DH inventor(Not Avak) I think because of this that its completely in the realm of possibilty that TSO told the DH inventor to not include a rhotuka as to keep the arm as a reminder of her failures.

[KDNX]

Idk if I like that for a number of reasons. For one, at least one Dark Hunter also had an arm rebuilt to facilitate Rhotuka usage (Guardian). Also, Lariska could easily just use a handheld Rhotuka launcher if her mechanical arm doesn’t have one.

[Takutanuva]

@KDNX

Also, Lariska could easily just use a handheld Rhotuka launcher if her mechanical arm doesn’t have one.

Well, so could anyone else in GSR. Doesn’t mean they do tho

[Tarkur]

@KDNX

For one, at least one Dark Hunter also had an arm rebuilt to facilitate Rhotuka usage (Guardian)

Source?

this looks like a tool to me:

[KDNX]

Source: the text of the book

POWERS: Guardian’s right arm was rebuilt to allow him to wield a staff that launches Rhotuka spinners.

[Tarkur]

The arm was adapted to wield the tool. The arm wasn’t the launcher

[KDNX]

Okay, I didn’t say his arm was the launcher though

[Tarkur]

@KDNX

I didn’t say his arm was the launcher though

Fair, but Lariska’s arm would certainly have it built into her arm or just implied through headcanon that she has the same mod as Guardian.

[TheJerminator]

@KDNX

For one, at least one Dark Hunter also had an arm rebuilt to facilitate Rhotuka usage (Guardian).

Guardian’s arm wasn’t rebuilt/replaced as a punishment, though.

[Tarkur]

@TheJerminator

Guardian’s arm wasn’t rebuilt/replaced as a punishment, though.

this too^

Edit: actually we do not know if the arm was ordered by TSO

[KDNX]

That’s true, and we are discussing a theory here, I just don’t see the utility of specifically saying “I could have put a Rhotuka here, but I won’t, and that’s the punishment” especially if the Rhotuka would make her a more effective agent, and if she could just use a handheld launcher either way. But idk, it’s not that big a deal.

[Tarkur]

However Lariska could also have been so confident in her own skills that she did not feel that a rhotuka was necessary. This is also specualtion

edit 1;

1. We haven’t seen/heard of Lariska’s species before, have we?
   1a. Are super-agility and senses natural traits of the species, or just Lariska?
   1a) No, they are things she trained to obtain
   Official Greg Dialogue | Page 135

Edit 2: Also found this while quote mining:

2. When you say Lariskais blue-green, do you mean like a teal-ish color or blue and green?

2. I mean like a tealish color
   Official Greg Dialogue | Page 265

[Winger]

Either way, this isn’t exactly the place to discuss the semantics of a theory.

[akirk47]

@Mechronus

Homer Doo

Ruh Roh, Rarge!

[Willess12]

@Mechronus

from the research I’ve done so far, I haven’t seen a quote confirming or denying a Rhotuka.

I’ll add on to that: I specifically searched a few keywords such as “Lariska weapons”, and “Lariska Rhotuka”, and “Lariska arm”, to see if Greg ever specified if the arm had any weaponry. There was nothing.

However, there is this line from the Updated Encyclopedia: “Lariska is a skilled hand-to-hand fighter and an expert with many weapons, but she prefers to use daggers”.

@TheJerminator

he difference, though, is that, unlike Tuyet’s hypothetical shield, the Yesterday Quest Toa’s weapons are known to exist. Any weapons would be allowed because they wouldn’t be implying the existence of any new tools, just the appearances of tools that we already knew existed.

I would say that the line from BEU means Lariska has used other weapons. So this would just be confirmation of one of the weapons that she might have used. Emphasis on Might, because just because a Dark Hunter has a weapon in their body doesn’t mean they use it – see Primal’s Paralysis device.

So basically: I don’t see any reason to disallow a Rhotuka arm. I think it would be fine even if we did canonize the Rhotuka arm, since there is canonical basis for it, but I get some people might disagree, so I’d be fine with just saying “this is what her arm looks like. Whether it can shoot a Rhotuka is up to you.”

---

Now, this next bit is just my opinion: I don’t care for the launcher arm. Not because of any canonization, but because having a launcher in your arm would probably hinder mobility somewhat, and I feel Lariska would prioritize mobility. Again, just my opinion, I don’t think a launcher arm should be disallowed on that basis.

[Racie02]

@Willess12

Again, just my opinion, I don’t think a launcher arm should be disallowed on that basis.

What? A person who can argue in favor of allowing something they dislike, putting canon above their own personal preference, in this topic? Inconceivable!

/s

[Tarkur]

@Willess12

“Lariska is a skilled hand-to-hand fighter and an expert with many weapons , but she prefers to use daggers”.

Considering this the only logical(to me) explanation for why she can fire rhotuka with her Robotic arm is because she has a similar mod to Guardians mod not because she has it built into it.

However seeing as the DH guide book refers to Guardians mod as a power. Something(powers) Greg has been adamant about Lariska not having it kind throws a wrench in that.

---

EDIT:

@Willess12

I think it would be fine even if we did canonize the Rhotuka arm, since there is canonical basis for it

There is also canonical basis against it.

@Tarkur

1. We haven’t seen/heard of Lariska’s species before, have we?
   1a. Are super-agility and senses natural traits of the species, or just Lariska?
   1a) No, they are things she trained to obtain
   Official Greg Dialogue | Page 135

@Tarkur

10.Do you know Lariska’s and Triglax’s powers?
10) Lariska’s only power is her agility and her marksmanship, and Triglax I have not bothered to come up with powers for because he has never appeared in the story.
Official Greg Discussion | Page 154

So are you saying that TSO’s eye beam made him that way by chance? surely some resistance or power of Zaktans allowed him to survive the devastating attack. Because TSO didn’t seem to speak lightly of Zaktan and he over saw his training and put in charge of a group of Dark Hunters whos job was to kill Toa.
Neither Zaktan nor TSO have any idea why TSO’s eyebeams affected him that way. If it was a result of some power of Zaktan’s, Zaktan did not know it existed and therefore it hasn’t been mentioned in the story. A DH does not need to necessarily have some special super power to get a position of responsibility in the org. – what’s Lariska’s super power? She doesn’t have one, she is simply a highly trained, very agile and skilled assassin.
Official Greg Discussion | Page 151

Edit 2:

@Mechronus

Also found these, your post reminded me.
" 7) Let’s say if a Visorak fired a spinner at Vakama Hordika. Could Vakama charge that spinner up?
7a) If above is yes, then could he control the spinner?
7) No. Rhotuka spinners are made up of your own personal energy, which is why every character (or in the case of Visorak, breed) has its own power. Vakama can charge up his own spinners with this tools, not those of others.
" Official Greg Discussion | Page 117

“3. Does a Toa Hordika’s Rhotuka spinner always have their elemental power? It seemed that way with the Toa Metru Hordika, but Savage’s Rhotuka paralyzes.
3) No, not necessarily” Official Greg Dialogue | Page 135

[Willess12]

@Tarkur

However seeing as the DH guide book refers to Guardians mod as a power.

The DH guide lumps everything under powers, including skills and weaponry, so I don’t think that’s an issue.