Why does it need to be 3D?
Maybe an exo-force Bionicle crossoverâŚ
Kraata Kal revives Teridax in the GSR (which he and the Dark Hunters repaired after Kraata Kal assassinated the Shadowed One), Mata Nui awakes to stop him, and brings the Chroniclerâs company (now Toa) into the GSR. Teridax, meanwhile, uses the GSR to attack the exo-force universe, leading to epicness.
Or maybe ask Lego about exo force? Because technically it was a system theme, so if Iâm right about Disney, it technically wouldnât violate the exclusivityâŚ
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Exo-Force and Alpha Team are at the top of my favorite system lines, so Iâm all for an Exo-Force reboot. Proper Gundam/Gurren Lagann style mecha would be amazing, and would help make constraction more popular. I just hope if Exo-Force gets a reboot that itâs handled with more care and money than G2 was.
Of course, an Alpha Team reboot with the transforming sets and such would also be really cool. Speaking of faith in new seriesâ, Alpha Team had a full on video game in its first year, and honestly, it was a really good game. Kinda wish LEGO showed that kind of love to G2.
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Something like an Okoto Online Game, maybe? Iâd play the heck outta that! Okoto potential to be an interesting location, and something like MNOG from G1 could have helped with that.
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Well, we all agree that something to build the setting and story wouldâve been good, but the Alpha Team game was a fully-fledged puzzle platformer with voice acting, smooth 3D graphics (a big deal in 2001) and it actually told the story of the year as well! The game isnât exactly easy either, nor is it brutally punishing (looking at you, BIONICLE: Mask of Light). Itâs more like Tales of the Tohunga (speaking of fully-fledged video games at the beginning of 2001), where itâs difficult, and has a surprising amount of gameplay and replayability. Yknow, like, an actual game made by an actual game developer.
Looking back, LEGO made a lot of fully-fledged video games that were really good back in the early 2000âs. It makes me sad that mobile games are the standard for quality these days, back in '01 the standard for quality was Halo: CE, Devil May Cry, and Pikmin. I mean, at that point the first two MYST games had already been released several years prior. The standard in gaming was a lot higher, because the only âcheaper optionâ other than flash games (a very new and dangerous field at the time) was to make a bad game. LEGO had too much integrity to make a bad game for the sake of marketing, so there were several (specifically PC) games that came out of LEGO in the early days of BIONICLE that were fantastic little gems worth looking back on.
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I just remembered the G2 mobile games, speaking of such! Those didnât really do much, did they? And like everything else in G2, they were poorly marketed.
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LEGO BIONICLE (as Tales of the Tohunga is officially named) was barely advertised at all, and although it had less success than later BIONICLE games, was still a great game that helped develop the setting and story, and quite frankly, probly made a lot more money than the G2 mobile games. I canât confirm that since finding financial numbers on video games from the early 2000âs is a lot harder than finding the numbers of a blockbuster film.
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Yeah, the G2 games didnât do any kind of world-building, from what I heard.
They effectively achieved one objective. They managed to make 6 super powerful elemental heroes more boring than the animations did. They should call the first on âBug Squasher: Repetitive Gameplay Edition!â
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Mask of Control was a descent game. There are no beasts for some reason, but the game is okay.
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I think âokayâ is really pushing it, considering that, even by mobile games as a standard, itâs pretty meh. I mean, Plants Versus Zombies 2 and HearthStone are technically mobile games. The InfinityBlade series is on mobile, and has been for a long time now. Even by those standards, the game is pretty mediocre, and thatâs being generous.
I realize we all want to defend G2 for the things we liked about it, but honestly itâs starting to feel even more shallow than defending G1âs flaws because of nostalgia. Iâm going to say this flatly, I genuinely disliked G2. I wasnât as vocal as most others, and I wanted to let people enjoy the line, but I could never personally invest myself in it. The story was sorely lacking, and the only bits of strength the story managed to scrounge up were still so bland to me that I didnât even want to learn more about the world. The sets were interesting, and really showed off what CCBS was capable of, but the flaws they had were absolutely existent, and honestly, the price tags were a little steep. For most of us fans whoâve been here for a long time, they price tags were reasonable, but for their target audience, they were outrageous. I was from an upper-middle class American family growing up, and my parents still didnât buy me any set more than 10 bucks, and most often, I bought them with my allowance, which was pretty minimal. If I was growing up with G2, Iâd likely have ended up getting none of the sets, due to their price tag and lack of availability, nevermind the fact that even as a kid I wouldnât have enjoyed the story. As a kid, the reason I liked BIONICLE was because of the âcomplexâ plot, because the magic of a complex plot is that it isnât necessary for every person to enjoy it. You could understand and appreciate the story of BIONICLE without any of the serials and without most of the content in the books. The plot was there, and it was simple, and if you wanted more you had an avenue to get it. It gives fans options, and people like having options. G2 had its strengths, but quite frankly, it had far more flaws. The line as a whole felt half-baked, in marketing, story, and even to a degree in sets (the designs were cool, but lacked a unique aesthetic to set them apart, and they only really started to develop an aesthetic in their second year. I personally found them kind of boring to look at, even if they were all different and well-designed). Comparing the complexity of G1 sets to G2 sets is asinine, the G2 sets have double the pieces (or more) and also twice the price tag. It doesnât matter if theyâre a great example of what CCBS can do if your main characters are 15 or 20 bucks. LEGOs are already more expensive than most other toys, so the hefty price tags only contributed to G2âs failure in the same way bad marketing and a lack of story to grip the kids that cared did (which is a far larger group than people give them credit for, considering how many discussions about the deep lore of BIONICLE I had with my friends in 3rd grade. I mean, back then we were all reading Percy Jackson books and Artemis Fowl. Those are aimed at teens, and we were still reading them as little elementary-schoolers). G2, objectively, was a failure on multiple fronts. The successes they had were so heavily masked in massive mistakes and missed opportunities that it became difficult to even praise the successes without being either naive or far too optimistic. I was excited for BIONICLE to come back, but when the story continued to prove it wasnât going anywhere, and when the first sets failed to grasp me due to their fairly bland look (though thatâs a personal opinion, there are plenty that agree), my optimism turned to criticism. I wanted G2 to succeed still, and I certainly wanted it to be better, so I criticized it where I thought it could improve. At that time, any criticism of G2 was considered heresy and would instantly get you labeled as a âgeewunner,â whether you made valid points or not, because apparently G2 did everything perfectly. G2, simply put, did not have enough redeeming qualities for it to be considered âgood.â Quite frankly, Hero Factory had a better story with more developed characters. It also had more faith put into it from the beginning.
Now comes the part where this opinion piece (thatâs already too long for my own good) gets really unpopular. I canât say âthank you LEGOâ in good faith. Thank you for what? For bringing back a beloved part of my childhood just to give it a minimal amount of attention, care, and half the budget? For effectively ensuring that BIONICLEâs name would be tarnished with retail companies for the foreseeable future? At this point, people have begun to defend G2 simply because itâs BIONICLE, and because they want to cling to the idea that it was a good thing that we got our childhood back in some kind of way. Itâs as pointless as defending G1 because it was part of your childhood. Everything has errors and mistakes, and when a line is hacked as early as G2 was, then clearly it must have made some incredibly gross and substantial errors. That might even be downplaying it, considering how unlikely and uncommon it is for LEGO to abruptly cancel a line in this fashion. G2 brought some good to the table, but I think the cost was far too heavy (and not just the cost of the sets). The possibility of a G3 is effectively dead, and now it looks like constraction as a whole was hurt by G2âs poor performance. I simply donât understand why LEGO didnât take G2 seriously. They give almost all of their story lines an incredible amount of love and attention, even the⌠questionable ones. G2 was thrown to the rubbish bin before it even had a chance to prove itself, and quite frankly, what little it did to prove itself makes me wonder if it deserved anything more than it got.
Just take a look at the design team videos to see how seriously they took this line.
[insert whoosh noises and a horrendously basic understanding of BIONICLE here]
[insert cringe]
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so basicly G2 sucked, it was going to suck and it will now and forever suck and we should not only move on from it, but also forget that it ever existed and treat it in the same way LEGO treated Galidor (by pretending that it never happend).
well, let me now just go and burn all of my G2 sets and instead go and do what every Bionicle fan should do, buy G1 sets and pretend that G2 was just a horrible, horrible dream.
though its moments like this that really makes me feel like i made a horrible mistake again for wanting to buy any of these shallow, boring, uninspired, pointless sets that only proves that LEGO does not care about their franchises and only cares about the money they can get from the dum little kiddies and brainless fans who will buy anything that have the name Bionicle slapped on the box.
that any praise that G2 can get is noting but hollow words made by people who are crying to things to get better.
that G2 in and of itself is notting but LEGO insutling the fans, the people who originaly worked on G1 and all of the people who cared for it.
Its moments like this that makes me feel like i was on the wrong side and that i should in fact have sided with the people who hated G2, who worked day and night trying to prove to the sheeple that G2 is noting but a massive cashin that will destroy the name Bionicle forever.
But what would LEGO have cared, even if we all critisesed G2 to death, LEGO would only have pulled the plug anyway. Even if G2 had been a success, LEGO would only have made it worse and worse as the days went on.
G2 is notting more than the death of Bionicle, and any who feel happy with G2 should in truth feel shamefull. Like me. 
Those design team videos⌠I agree with you. It seemed like they didnât know what they were talking about half the time. People say the Bionicle team cared about G2, but they couldnât even build their own sets right. The more this discussion continues, the more it appears that everyone involved with G2 didnât really care if it succeeded or not. The designers would put everything into the winter waves, and then slack off with the summer waves. Many of those sets had glaring flaws that should have been noticed in whatever testing/quality control they had (ex: Skull Grinderâs lazy arms, 90% of Skull ScorpioâŚ). The marketing department almost didnât even exist (as weâve talked to death about already), and the few cheesey trailers they cobbled together never went on TV or anything. The story team constantly doubled back and retconed things, while trying to shove in as many UDD (or in this case DUD) references as possible. G2 did have good sets, and the theme as a whole had so much potential, but no one involved did anything with it.
Again, this is the theme that saved Lego. This is Legoâs largest and most popular and successful IP. Why did Lego put so little effort into it? G1 wasnât necessarily failing when it was cancelled, so there was no reason not to go all in with G2.
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Thats another exaggeration. It wasnt completely suckish, also we SHOULD remember it, for the reasons to never make the same mistakes again (also cause the Mask of Creation made itself Iconic by appearance).
Thats kinda immature way of dealing with these situations. Yes, lets all put our hands on our ears and yell loud enough âI cant hear youâ until it passes, that will fix the problemâŚ[ahem nope].
Whoa thats another exaggeration. They are hardly shallow, or boring, or uninspired sets. Just look at how they used CCBS in such brilliant new ways that Hero Factory could have only dreamed of, and the play functions from Slizer engineering have been perfected, only 12 years later.
Also brainless? Yeah is it so impossible for your brain to figure out why someone would even want theses sets or like them, are you incapable of such though.
I bought these sets not because they were Bionicle, I would have bought a Hero Factory or any other line if it did what this one did. I bought it cause the set proportions were great, the gear functions were amazing, the backs were filled in, and the plastic doesnt brake that easily.
Sure for every nice thing they did there were two more bad things, but being part of two extremes is just dumb.
Yeah, I think you need to chill a bit and assess whats actually worth in your like life. Plastic toys should not be something that your whole life revolves around. It happened, good or bad, move on.
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umm⌠No.
unlike Galidor, Bionicle G2 had some great sets.
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G2 had some good qualities, like the sets. We canât just forget it happened.
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We absolutely shouldnât forget. We especially canât forget the flaws. If we refuse to learn from G2âs failure we will never move on. It should be remembered, but we definitely shouldnât pretend, even for a moment, that it was perfect. There are many reasons it was canned, and to an extent, itâs almost more important to remember those reasons than to remember the good things so we donât repeat them and so LEGO doesnât get away with making those same mistakes again. We should remember the good parts, but we shouldnât remember them with rose-tinted glasses, and we definitely shouldnât remember G2 as the magical gift to mankind that brought back our favorite childhood series (like some would like us to). Iâm tired of people defending aspects of G2 that werenât just subjectively bad, but are potentially reasons the line was cancelled early. Just as bashing G2 for the wrong reasons is stupid, praising it for the wrong reasons is also stupid.
I personally think G2 may have brought more bad than good, but that doesnât mean the good didnât exist. I just donât think the good makes up for the bad.
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Now if only people would do that for G1 as wellâŚ
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the negatives out wheigh the pross. thats what the people who donât like G2 have mentiond many times.
infact, what other people have brough up would be better than G2, LEGO should not have called this Bionicle, and instead just called it robo island or something, and LEGO then would not have resived the hate for having stained Bionicleâs name.
do you all wanna know why im so negative now, because when i read peopleâs negative opinions on something, it rubs off on me, and i start to feel like i might have made another horrible mistake for having liked and supported G2. and trust me, those feelings are not dumb when you have supported things like Overlord: Fellowship of Evil and many other things that where hated from the start and in the end proved the haters right.
they are not on a shelf, they are in a box. If they where, then my parrents would be mad and tell me to take them down. They feel like me showing them off is embarasing and they have hated the idea of me buying LEGO for a long time, to the point were in they have treatend to take away my bank account.
mate.
Calm down, and take a step back from the keyboard.
maybe grab a Storm Beast, of a Uniter off the shelf. Heck, even grab 2015 Kopaka.
Slide your keyboard back, and start posing the figure, fiddling around, and try and have a good time.
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