especially when you watch a top 10 youtube vid and it takes you to the deep web…
Oh man. You start out by watching All Time Tens’ “Abandoned Places Explained”, and before you know it you’re on "try not to laugh"s, some idiot messing with a giant freakin’ camel spider, and something about Pokemon being in real life. >.>
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Lego Star Wars isn’t Lego Blocks 'N Stuff with the Star Wars name slapped on, Bionicle sets like Tahu are inspired by the originals, they are not based on Furno, Breeze, or anything. They use the same parts, but THEY’RE LEGO PARTS. Something people constantly miss.
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Calling any of the Hero Factory characters ‘original’ is somewhat a stretch.
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I think Surge was original.
The whole insecure rookie trope obviously isn’t uncommon, but I liked the twist wherein he was paranoid about having a flaw that would turn him evil.
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Surge was the village idiot.
Eventually, sure. But he wasn’t intended to be. And we’re discussing concepts of characters more so than their execution, so I think it applies.
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If you want to discuss concepts, they’re robots with stones embedded inside their chests.
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I’m not talking about character traits, I’m talking about actual characters, Furno, for example, didn’t exist before 2010 so he was a made up character, I’m not talking about traits he or any are based on, I’m talking ‘originals’ as in previous alliterations.
Those people are just one minded biggots, dont listen to them. they will never get anywhere in life.
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the sick fires of that burn are hotter than the power felt by tahu
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Alright,so here’s a message that i left on another thread,that i hope will change your mind about HF and will make you not hate it anymore.
Okay,so many of you know that till the return of Bionicle,Bio’s fans have been up at arms against Hero Factory.Many hated it because it replaced Bionicle,some because they didn’t like the sets,others because the story was pretty dumb.
Ever since Bionicle returned,people kinda forgot about HF and those who hated it surely felt like they obtained a huge victory when it got cancelled.
For the last 5 years,many people viewed HF as Bionicle’s biggest enemy.
But HF was actually vital for the return of Bionicle.
Here’s why.
Okay,so let’s go back to 2008.
2008 was the year that many people viewed as Bionicle’s final one,and many expected it to end that year.Story-wise,it was the year that the Toa would finally awake Mata Nui,destroy Makuta for good and live happy ever after.Lego sure made some great sets.The Phantoka Toa and Makuta were awesome,and even though i dislike the Mistika,they sure weren’t completely awful.But,around that year,sales started to go down.The sets became kinda repetitive,as they were still using the Inika build 2 years after it’s launch,and by that time the story got far too complex for small kids to follow.But Lego had no plans of canceling Bionicle.So,what did they do?
They try to very-softly reboot Bionicle,which leads us to 2009.After the cliffhanger of 2008,2009’s story was something completely different.After Teridax took control of Mata Nui’s body,the Ignika was shot in the space and landed on a completely different planet,Bara Magna.There,the Ignika made a body for Mata Nui,and he started exploring and i won’t say what happened next cuz many of you already know that.
Personally i really liked 2009.
But others surely didn’t.
With 2009,Lego tried to revive Bionicle so the sets could sell well again.
For that they try to make a new story,that was still kinda conected to the old one,so the younger fans could follow it.Depending on the sales of that years,Bionicle would’ve either go into a hiatus,or continue the Bara Magna story for a couple of years.Lego put a lot of money into Bionicle that year,and even made that Big Budget movie.They expected 2009 to be a homerun.But as you already know,2009 failed.Miserabily.
In my opinions,for 2 reasons:
1.The older fanbase didn’t care about the new story,so they didn’t buy the sets.The story was still conected to the old one,and it was still hard to follow for the little guys.
2.Lego tried to completely reinvent Bionicle,but the sets were still using the Inika Build.That was an issue,in my opinion,and the sets got incredibly repetitive and boring,another reason for the lack of sales that year.
Seeing that in 2009 they sold even less sets than in 2008,and also that year they put a lot of money into Bionicle,Lego decided to make a new building system,but as that was really hard and needed a lot of time,they decided to give the story a quick end and put Bionicle into hiatus.That happened in 2010.
Alright,and now HF kicks in.
Many people thought that HF happened just because Lego wanted to kill Bionicled,and they hated HF for that.
But that was not the case.
Here’s the thing about Hero Factory:
It was an experiment.
With it,Lego tried to make a new building system for Bionicle,and see if people were still interested in buildable action figures.They tried to make it as appealing as possible for the young kids,this time.
HF lasted for 5 years.Each year,the CCBS got better and better,and the sales were amazing at the peak of HF’s popularity (2012).After seeing the experiment going well,Lego decided to start working on Bionicle in 2013.
The Brain Attack Pieces were important for the new Bionicle sets,and Lego also used the CCBS in a few other themes like Chima,in order to perfect it.In 2014,everything was done and Lego decided to bring back Bionicle and end HF.That’s also the reason why the 11th episode,Invasion from Below,sucked so much,Lego stopped working with the guys who made the HF tv series up until that point,as it was expensive to work with,and replaced it with a much cheaper animation studio.That because they weren’t interested in HF anymore.So,after that,the experiment was concluded and Bionicle returned with a new story and a new building system.
HF was important for Bionicle for the reasons i mentioned above.
It gave Lego the opportunity to create a new building system for Bio,and see if people would still buy buildable action figures.Lego never wanted to kill Bionicle.They realised why Bionicle was failing in the final years of the original story,and put it into hiatus so they could fix those issues.
I compare HF to one of Bio’s most loved characters:
The Bohrok.
At first,it seems like it acts distructive and tries to “kill” everything that is important for you,so you take action and try to kill it back.Afterwards you find out that it was just doing it’s job and was actually vital for the survival of the said thing.It never wanted to destroy it,it was just doing what he was tasked to do,for the good of the said thing.
So for anyone that still hates HF,i suggest you to change your mind.If HF never existed,maybe Bionicle would’ve never returned.
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Uhh…
TL; DR: Hero Factory didn’t replace Bionicle, it fixed Bionicle.
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Fixed the repetition of the Inika build and quality of the plastic, maybe.
Gave Bionicle a break so it could be rebooted in the future, maybe.
I still dont like it though.
The HF sets were good, but I didn’t really care much about the story.
Also, the line was called Hero Factory, yet we always got 6 out of the 9 members of Alpha Team. Why didn’t Lego make sets for other teams?
People always complain about the story having plot holes and cliffhangers; how would you feel if the series also skipped back and forth between groups of characters every year?
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that may very well have fixed said plot holes and cliffhangers.
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… how? I think it would clearly do the opposite.
well, it would have been written differently if the writers had multiple teams to work with.
I can see it going either way, depending on the execution.
On the one hand, if there were multiple teams, you could explain character lapses(Stringer was helping out a lower rank team on a particularly difficult mission. Stuff like that). Furthermore, you could get rid of cliffhangers using similar explanations(Beta team discovered partially functioning evil robots in the basement while they were trying to clear out the remaining brains).
On the other hand, it could just mean more room for stupid stuff like the useless cliffhangers that they did use.
As a side note, you should probably just make a new topic to discuss this; it’s rather off-topic.