How Takanuva probably should have looked

so what if the voya nui matoran saw the toa inika and they became toa would they have there masks semi organic looking or regular toa masks but the same build in body as toa inika

this seems interesting…
Would Matoran’s mask change when transforming to toa?
Cuz Toa Metru have kept their old masks, but Inika haven’t (I know red star and blah blah)
So how it is with masks?

Wait I’m confused you do know the red star didn’t change Jaller and company’s masks Karzanhi did…
or are you talking about the organic mask thing

I talked about organic part…
But can mask power change when Matorans are transformed in Toa?

Oh ok. Idk…

It depends on the way the Toa were created. Going by the Metru (assumingly “normal” transformation), mask powers shouldn’t be able to change. However, the whole deal with the Inika/Mahri and their transformation through the Red Star and Ignika makes things a bit more muddled.

No, mask powers can’t change upon transformation, even one such as the Red Star. The Red Star was simply an alternate method of transformation than the Toa Stones. Perhaps a different kind of energy, but nonetheless, they can’t change the disks the masks were made with, and cannot change the powers, organic or not.

The Red Star did not change their mask powers, just made the masks organic, but the Ignika changed the powers and made them non-organic.

That was just Ignika-Ex-Machina. The masks changed entirely, not just the power, so it was really just a lazy plot device to explain why the masks look different in the sets. It’s not like they still called Jaller Mahri’s mask the Calix, they had it be an entirely different mask.

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Possibly because I seem to have a bias for Helryx, but she seems much more elegant a a tall figure seeming of intelligence (pardon the redundancy).

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actually that is a self proclaimed title :stuck_out_tongue: but still you are the chronicler

… So Kongu had a powerless Suletu? Not a Miru? Just shaped like one?

Nay. Karzahni replaced all of their masks in Dark Destiny.

Edit: Actually, in Kongu’s case, he picked up the Suletu from a dead Toa on the way to Karzahni and managed to switch it with the one Karzahni gave him.

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Don’t ye remember Dark Destiny? Karzahni decides to give them Organic masks?

He gave them normal masks, which were made organic by the Red Star

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Well he is called TakaNUVA for a reason.

He’s called Takanuva because it’s a contraction of Takua Nuva, because he wanted to refer to himself as a Nuva even if he was technically not one, due to his familiarity with the actual Toa Nuva; that’s the in-story explanation, but the real reason is that the story team didn’t want people to guess that Takua would transform into Takanuva so they changed his name

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Why couldn’t they have just called the set Toa of Light or something?

In the early years of Bionicle, “Toa of ___” didn’t even appear in set names; Tahu was Tahu, etc.

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That’s interesting. So, if I were to turn into a Toa, I would look like a Phantoka. Cool.