I know where Marendar is going...

Thank you for your kind words @Kanohi_Cantri

I mainly wanted to convey the ideas I had, and felt like a short story would serve that purpose better than a dry explanation. Of course, someone with actual writing skill would make a much better story out of this than me (I do not really plan on writing, this was a kind of one-off thing).

What I would like to know is, do you think this whole idea is too much “out there”, or could you see the Great beings designing something similar as the way of destroying the Toa?

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Seeing as how there is dimension hopping, mind control, hunger, and time control within the canon of Bionicle, I don’t see this idea as being too far-fetched. Maybe a little overboard, yes, but again this ability is completely plausible, especially for something designed to destroy powerful entities such as toa. Besides, the Great Beings were able to create other grand objects such as an enormous space-faring robot, a mask with the ability to manipulate life at its core complete with its own life/personality, and a mask that can create anything its user could envision out of thin air. So there is no reason to believe that they could not build this power into Marendar.

I do agree that it would give it some extra creepiness if it were able to do this- which is very intriguing to me.

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cool concept art

If you think that is how it should look like, by all means make a moc and take part in the competition.

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I find it very interesting how the designer used a toolo exhaust pipe for this guy.

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Yes! I thought this too–wrote a story about it back in like, 2017-2018. Part of a Bionicle continuation, which I’ve since abandoned (though one day plan to re-write and resume). It just makes sense that he would be drawn to her and the nui stone.

I’ve always liked Bionicle chickens interpretation of Marendar


Can’t wait to see other people’s interpretation of him

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I actually like that one too as long as there is thought behind it. As I stated before the winning interpretation should communicate how Marendar deals with the Toa once he hunts them down. He should not be merely a physically imposing brute.

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That probably is where the story would go.

I also have a theory about how it would end. I want to be clear that this is heavily based on another theory I saw a while ago.

As others have theorized, Marendar likely has something that can turn off Elemental Power. This would give it a massive advantage over any Toa. Of course, Tahu still has the Rahkshi powers, and Tuyet has a tremendous amount of Toa Power. But Tahu can only use so many powers at once, and Toa Power is useless without Elemental Power.

But, the Elemental Inhibitor would not work on the Glatorian granted Elemental Powers by Mata Nui. So they would become major characters in the battle, and you could end the arc with one of the Glatorian sacrificing themselves to defeat Marendar with a Nova Blast.

Probably Ackar.

(Also, Tuyet’s Toa Power would allow her to create a very large amount of Toa without turning into a Turaga, if she were so inclined. Something to think about.)

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The Glatorian strategy is something I thought about as well in the past. However, Marendar has since been granted straight up resistance to elemental energy, so I guess this wouldn’t work anymore? But I still like it as an elegant solution.

Sacrifice for the future of the new society would be a fitting end for the veteran Glatorian’s arc.

Additional (lesser) option is for the Toa Nuva to prepare their elemental attacks beforehand (which only they can do) and lure Marendar into a trap.

Hmm, interesting. I never thought about her wanting to give away the power for more Toa. Did you mean it as a part of some plan against Marendar, or would she use it in the aftermath, to replenish near extinct Toa?

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That is true. I know that the community doesn’t like retcons, but I’d be comfortable with changing this to say it only shuts off Toa’s abilities, just because it opens up more story possibilities while still aligning with Marendar’s purpose of defeating Toa.

And honestly, this makes more sense. If the Great Beings wanted a robot to kill rogue Toa, why would they make it immune to the Element Lords? And this fits better with the idea of the Toa being artificial creations.

I also love the idea of the Toa Nuva setting up timed attacks. That is an incredibly clever use of a pre-established power, which I always enjoy.

I didn’t really think about it. I just realized it was something she could do.

Realistically, she would use it to set up her Toa Empire, except this time with Matoran-turned-Toa handpicked by her.

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I share your opinion.

Yeah, that is probably right.
Then again, there are mentions of Tuyet’s potential redemption in some of the posts of this topic. If there even is any redemption for her, I think it would have been now.

That is true. It seems like she was going to be forced to help everyone else.

But, honestly, I never really saw Tuyet as getting a redemption arc. I saw her as an unwavering selfish narcissist.

Maybe we would get both. She would use her powers to defeat Marendar, get hailed as a hero, and then use that influence to get power and begin recruiting for her Empire.

But I would still want the final victory to go to Ackar.

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Sounds like Tuyet to me :+1:

I would have been really happy to see the Toa Nuva die in the Marendar arc :stuck_out_tongue: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

I am really sick of all the plot armor the main character(s) get

I think it was going to happen, though it would have been part of the Velika arc, rather than Marendar. Maybe they would merge together, I don’t know. There were a lot of plot threads left open.

I don’t think Greg would kill off all of the Nuva, though. One or two at the most. Based on historical data, Onua would probably die saving Lewa again.

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But I guess having Tahu or Gali (or maybe even both of them) die would have more of an emotional impact but I see your point

Not Kopaka he is love, he is life :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t think Kopaka (or Pohatu, for that matter) is at risk.

I feel like the Pohatu/Kopaka bromance adventure on the Red Star works best as a standalone story, without tying into the main plot. There is nothing relevant to the main story that can come from that plotline without invalidating an important character death.

As such, Pohatu and Kopaka would be protected from anything happening on Spherus Magna.

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Crap you’re right!

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