Uh, how do I do spoilers again?
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or if itâs a single paragraph you can use <span class=âspoilerâ%>
Probably.
Itâll probably have the same effect. Personally, I think for a semi-low budget show it was great. The biggest problem was how the lighting was, I think. They also forgot that Mark Hamill has some clear dimple creases on his face, which made it look strangely smooth. That and his chin was wider than it normally is.
Good, IMO. I want to see where this Mandalore stuff comes from. Grogu was cool but I want to see Din Djarin explore more of what a Mandalorian should be. And Boba Fett practically declaring a gang war is far more exciting of a story to me.
Eh⌠I donât want it extended though. My biggest problem with this season was the meandering with rebels characters.
> but at the same time it feel like a copout that had to be used as a result of weak storytelling.
See, I just canât agree. We knew Grogu contacted a Jedi, and we already knew Ahsoka could not be it. Logically, who is the only surviving Jedi at this point in Star Wars lore? Ezra is far gone (and thank goodness it was not him, I already had enough rebels stuff this season), and other Jedi are presumed to be killed or hiding. The only logical Jedi to come get Grogu, who isnât in hiding, is Luke Skywalker.
Itâs not cheapening Grogu. Iâm just saying, the whole infiltration was poorly directed IMO. Cara Duneâs gun jamming did nothing to the stakes, and I felt the Dark Troopers should have broken through the door before Luke showed up. Would have felt more tense, ya know? Grogu and Luke were just the best parts of this episode for me.
as long as youâre removing the percentage symbols and putting a space before your text it should work.
Hasnât been working for me. RIP.
luke or not, I didnât like how the ending was just a deus ex machina
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It actually wasnât. A Jedi coming was foreshadowed earlier in the season. Is it convenient? Maybe. But not a deus ex machina by definition because we knew a Jedi would ultimately come.
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a higher power showed up the save the day, how is that not a deus ex machina?
Then why even have those first two season at all if the story completely shifts to something totally unrelated? You could have just as easily set up the plot that way and had the show be about Mandalore, the Mandâalor, and The Mandalorian, and not had to go through the Grogu rigamarole.
What rebels characters? You mean CW ones?
It could have if they hadnât done her character drop earlier in the season purely to include the word âThrawnâ in the episode.
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A âdeus ex machinaâ is not defined by a higher power saving the day. According to wikipedia, they define it as âa plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem in a story is suddenly and abruptly resolved by an unexpected and unlikely occurrence.â Luke was certainly a higher power, but again, a Jedi showing up was properly foreshadowed. A Deus ex Machina is when a character shows up completely out of nowhere to save the day. We knew a Jedi would appear eventually. And story wise, it is also logical: once Grogu sent out the message, we knew a Jedi would come looking for him.
Then why have a sequel story to anything if we are not allowed resolve the plot in one film (or in this case, two seasons)? The case of Mandalore is completely related, as well. The first season showed Moff Gideon having the dark saber, discussing the Mandalorian code, and showing Din Djarin earning his stripes. The show is, ultimately, about the Mandalorian lifestyle and what it means to be one. So, turning the show to discuss stuff about Mandalore is actually completely relevant.
I get youâre sad that Grogu has to go, but this reasoning makes little sense to me. Stories are allowed to end, and move on. Was Grogu marketable? Yes. But so were the Ewoks and Porgs. Doesnât mean the focus of the show nessecarily needs to stay on them.
What rebels characters? You mean CW ones?
Perhaps they started in The Clone Wars, but the way they were portrayed in this season reflected how they appeared in Star Wars: Rebels, and their archs correspond to how that show ended. Hence why I call them ârebelsâ characters.
That also annoyed me. On this point I agree with you: the use of this show to introduce other shows brought it down.
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I love reading spoilers from a series I probably wonât get the chance to watch any time soon 
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I need to turn off my email notifications for this site.
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The characters didnât expect him to arrive, and itâs not like it was absolutely certain that a jedi would show up in the finale. All we knew was that weâd probably see another jedi later on. The fact of the matter is, Luke Skywalker enters the story out of left field, and bails everyone out. Iâm sorry that I donât think itâs enjoyable having the main character sidelined.
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Not for me, I guess. The show was about Dinâs journey from a ruthless 'Hunter to a caring father figure.
The plots in all three sets of movies were each their own single plot. Not episodic soap operas.
This could have been done so easily without the show being fixated on Grogu.
also for spoiler you have to indent after and before the html.
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People bailing other people out happens in real life all the time (especially in war). In story telling it can get excessive to the point of absurdity, but you canât really complain just because it happens this one time.
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Iâm not exactly bothered by it being deus ex machina. Iâm bothered because itâs just one more character drop for shock factor that the show relies so heavily on.
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Sure I can, itâs the finale, Iâm allowed to expect better writing than that.
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Thereâs objectively no writing issue here since it was foreshadowed. Disliking the outcome isnât the same as calling it poor writing.
I have plenty of issues with this finale, but I think youâve zeroed in on the least damaging aspect.
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You know who else does this? Han Solo. Nobody expected him to arrive to save Luke. Completely out of the blue in Episode 4. And yet, nobody complains. Having a heroic appearance in a story is good, in my opinion, and the ragging about âdeus ex machinaâ in modern criticism is overblown. It is a trope that is not nessecarily bad. Itâs only bad when utilized poorly. It can be a fantastic trope with, again, which both examples use.
Not for me, I guess. The show was about Dinâs journey from a ruthless 'Hunter to a caring father figure.
Iâd argue thatâs part of the Mandalorian lifestyle. All of these elements show what being a Mandalorian is. Itâs also a great example to show the heroism theyâre capable of instead of being ruthless killers. So yes, I agree with this point, and then some.
The plots in all three sets of movies were each their own single plot. Not episodic soap operas.
Yes, and this agrees with my point. Mandalorian doesnât need to be a single plot.
Yes, but they had Grogu, and now his arch is complete. Having both can be done feasibly, and I think it was done well.
Precisely. The issue with this episode was the lack of tension before Luke arrived, not Luke being freaking awesome and saving the day.
Also thanks Winger for telling me about the indent, that helps infinitely.
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Thereâs a difference between foreshadowing and taking away the agency of the main characters. If this was Rey, or Ben solo folks would be agreeing with me. Pixarâs rules of storytelling one, folks appreciate trying more than they do succeeding. Besides, thereâsdefinitally no tension when they get bailed out
We lose agency in real life all the time though. You could die right now from an accident for example.
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Of course we would be. Because Rey and Ben Solo appearing makes literally no sense to the timeline of this show, not because itâs Deus ex Machina. XD
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