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Han Solo is a character already in the movie who is morally grey. The audience wants and expects him to make the choice to return and save Luke, and it pleased when he does. Not out of the blue at all.

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have you read any of the books or comics

There is tension, because one of the most major characters that the entire plot line has fixated on has been abducted and is seriously threatened.

And then boom Luke shows up and saves the day.

when an embryo wielding a lightsaber shows up and obliterates the Dark Troopers

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Storytelling isn’t real life though, and it’s kind of silly to say, x happens in real life so it’s automatically fine that it happens in a story.

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Fiction seeks to imitate life to give it purpose. Not simply for us to find comfort.

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Would would have been a better watch, our heros struggling to fight an insurmountable force, or Luke Skywalker easily winning?

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Nope.

Fiction is escapism, where we can immerse ourselves in a world not as mundane or depressing as ours.

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Han Solo is a character already in the movie who is morally grey. The audience wants and expects him to make the choice to return and save Luke, and it pleased when he does. Not out of the blue at all.

Yes, and this is what I am arguing. We knew Han could do it. We knew a Jedi in the show could come in.

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have you read any of the books or comics

Why should I have to? I wanna watch a TV show and so far the TV show is telling me how to be a Mandalorian. Screw the books and comics. I shouldn’t have to rely on them. This is the same issue I had with the sequel trilogy.

That is tension, yes. What isn’t tense is how they just easily get through all the stormtroopers and take over the ship before the episode is even half over. That was way too quick. Should have been more of a fight.

Good. As he should.

It’s called history, son. I’m currently majoring in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvY8vzsTE98

You’re stating an opinion as objective fact. Not everyone uses fiction as escapism.

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I’d rather see the storm troopers actually put up a fight for once. Most of this episode had no tension at all.

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It’s called Storytelling, I’m majoring in it.

So why are you saying real life is incapable of being storytelling? That is horrendously narrow-minded.

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Except that last I checked Luke hasn’t been in the show so far.

What? The issue with the sequels is that they have no continuity.

It’a called Logic, I’m still in high school.

because then it’s not a story, in this sense.

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I’m not saying that it can’t be, just that storytelling doesn’t have to be slavish attached to realism

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Fiction that relies on escapism alone has no point to it other than being a distraction. These types of stories tend to be the least valued by people over history. The stories we remember are one’s that impact us in a real way that goes beyond escapism.

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I am not impacted by Fahrenheit 451 because it’s realistic.

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I’ve never read that book. Could you explain what you mean?

It’s the temperature at which books burn

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Again… We knew a Jedi would be coming. This arguing is getting tiresome. You just keep repeating the same points and not giving me a single good counter argument.

The issue is that they had no continuity and then told us to read the freaking books to learn the whole story.

Yes it certainly is. I’m rather insulted to hear that real life experiences cannot be called ā€œa storyā€. How mundane a view point. How mundane a view for all our ancestors who painstakingly put their own experiences down for us to read and experience what life was like for them. The most brilliant writers use their real-life experiences to make a better story. Look at Tolkien, for example.

Then say that. Because what you said earlier was ridiculous.

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You could very well be right, but I don’t see how Luke Skywalker showing up suddenly to save the day touched your profoundly.

That is what I said earlier

Fahrenheit 451 is set in a dystopian utopia where everyone’s reality is fake and digital. Nuclear wars rage outside and people are totally unaware. Books are illegal. Thinking for yourself is illegal - people that do are persecuted.

saying it that way makes it sound like a book for kids. It’s harder to describe without you having read it yourself.

It affects me because it is prescient, not because it is realistic.

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I was absolutely fascinated by how legendary they made him seem. And it’s good to see a bit of heroism in Star Wars nowadays. And it’s good to see my boy Luke Skywalker being cool again.

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We see heroism from the mandalorian all the time though. Dunno what your point is.