Yes. And? Doesnāt negate my point. Both can be heroic.
My point is that the sequels completely destroyed any sense of heroism by just making the story ābelieve in yourself!!!ā which Luke also succumbed to. Mandalorian fixes both Luke with this, and also shows true heroism through Din Djarin. Itās a double win.
Seems like a bit of a tangent for our discussion
To be fair, this entire discussion has been a tangent.
yea I feel like this has been an hour and a half Iām never getting back
we are all slowing dying
Thanks thought bubble.
Anyway, I dunno how you got, āevents and aspects of real life canāt ever be adapted into a storyā from, āNot all aspects or elements of real life are the right fit for stories.ā Thatās a false equivalency if Iāve ever seen one.
I got it from this:
Which is fundamentally incorrect. Some of the oldest works of literature, like the Odyssey and Epic of Gilgamesh, were considered history once upon a time, real life so to speak. And even if there is obvious fictional elements, they spoke of real life. Our ancestors considered these stories to be real. In fact, Iād argue that is the making of a good story: if it comes across as so enthralling that we believe it is real.
To be fair, thatās still true. Events from real life can be adapted into stories, but they arenāt stories in of themselves, though Iām not going to argue about whether or not reality is just a feeling.
Yes they are. Did you not read what I just said?
Me getting hit by a car isnāt a story, me telling someone else that I got hit by a car is.
How would I ever know you got hit by a car if you had not told me the story? Perhaps experiences themselves are stories, and the way we remember them also stories.
The universe wouldnāt keep a record of me getting hit by a car, or understand it as having a beginning, middle, or end. Stories require people to be able to understand and interpret these events as a story. An event isnāt a story, a personās experience of it is.
But you do. In your memories. And sometimes those memories donāt recall everything correctly. They recall them as an experience, a story to be told. You interperet that memory as you saw it, not as it happened. An event is totally a story, that is how plot happens.
All weāve been discussing here today is disliking the event of Luke Skywalker showing up. Which is part of a bigger story. Events are part of a story or are the story. That is how language itself works. Itās how itās worked for thousands of years.
I mean the universe in an abstract sense, something apart from mankind. , there is no story if thereās no one to interpret events as one. Letās say a tree falls in the woods, and thereās no one to witness it, is that event a story?
Yes. It most undoubtedly is. Because the situation you posed does happen. And you just recorded the event happening, and weāre thinking about the implications of it. Thatās storytelling. Thatās world building.
But I didnāt record the event, the point of the thought experiment is that no one did. Iām not experiencing the event just because I postulated it.
But you know the tree fell, we can see fallen trees without human intervention. Therefore it had to happen. The fact that we think of such a situation is, in itself, a story Traykar. We see the world before us and pose questions in the forms of stories.
hey guys howās it goin
Pretty good, just talking about how awesome Luke Skywalker appearing in the newest episode was.