These are mutually exclusive. If voters disregard the entrants when voting, it’s not really about popularity and they’re unlikely to even remember who won.
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Chud being like “name the detractors” is such a massive parallel to real-life movements being treated as monolithic organizations
Can I speak to the CEO of crime
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This is what I was trying to say. If there is REALLY groups actively working against TTV, there’s no reason the groups can’t be named. Not talking about people.
Gonna be honest here non of the entries that won so far has been one of the first ones entered.
From the respective contests entry list topic:
Helryx was nr 35 out of 130
Arthaka was nr 64 out of 115
Bomonga was nr 73 out of 127
Gaaki was nr 55 out of 127
Kualus was nr 126 out of 127
Pouks was nr 50 out of 127
I don’t think when they were entered had any affect on their placements in the contests
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I mean, based on the OP, it makes it seem like there are groups that are working against the contest.
While that wouldn’t be bad, I’m also not really sure if it would fix the problems that are being had right now. As other people have pointed out above, the past contests have shown that voters definitely aren’t letting personal feelings towards an entrant affect their vote.
Plus, how would that even work? Even if the entrant’s name isn’t included in the polls, voters would still be able to see which account posted the entry. (Unless entrants just send their entries to the mods via PM, but then the rest of the community couldn’t give any pre-contest feedback).
Maybe not?
(For the record, I want to see the contests continue)
Nothing is being withheld; the Discord groups are open to anyone (as far as I know? I’m not actually on any of them).
Are you saying that the contests are a popularity contest, or are you saying that no one checks the creators when voting? Those seem to be contradictory.
I was under the impression that Double’s ban was for contest-specific behaviour, not just general bad behaviour elsewhere.
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I mean there were spontaneously organized efforts on Reddit, Discord, and 4chan. They didn’t exactly go by codenames or write operations orders for their vote-swinging
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I agree. Good thing that’s not what I’m saying.
Most non-TTV groups are anti-TTV, anti-contest, but I’m not saying non-TTV automatically means somewhere is anti-TTV.
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Information about a TTV contest should not be limited to discord. I’m saying that no one checks the creators from voting. If TTV was really concerned with popularity contests, they would have allowed people to only win a contest once.
And being “toxic” isn’t a reason to ban people.
I dunno most seems a bit too far but there are definitely people within various parts of community who seem to viametly (i totally spelled that wrong) hate ttv and these contests beyond reasonable levels of criticism
I would say that being rude, unsportsmanlike, and breaking the website’s terms of use (which is constituted as “being toxic”) warrants a ban
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Are you serious…?
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There are reasons.
- He broke contest rules
- He was a jerk to other participants.
There’s always going to be a breaking point where no one is going to want to tolerate your presence. If you make zero effort to at least be tolerable in a group setting. Don’t be surprised when no one from that group wants to deal with you.
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there was lot of weird stuff with Helryx but I can’t remember any bridgading with Bomonga, just people kinda dumbfounded over the “shieldgate” and the amount of torsos used
I don’t understand why a contest which apparently is connected to the entire Bionicle community is limited to who is allowed on TTV’s site.
@Synnova32 From a contest? Yeah, I am serious, especially if it’s the MOC that matters.
Edited for Double Post - BioKnight
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maybe but its a bit of a low bar to not be ultra toxic enough to get banned
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Enough responding to Chud. He’s not interested in understanding, and so he won’t. You’re just giving him permission to continue.
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Funny enough that’s… actually entirely a reason to ban people. Says so right in the rules for the forum, which you agree to abide by when you join the forum. It’s very rare that actions outside the boards would be taken into consideration when it comes to the boards themselves, but Double’s not a special case in that regard either.
Rule Index: All Rules Here - Site / Rules and Guidelines - The TTV Message Boards (ttvchannel.com)
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probably right. so about reforming future contests, does anyone have any actual productive suggestions?
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ttv could allow banned users from emailing in their entries. you’d lose out on feedback etc. but it it would allow anyone to enter.
yes that would allow multiple entries 
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