State of the Contests Update

I have no idea what the point of this discussion is, but this may be relevant: word-of-god canon is always dubious in nature because it is not present in the content of the work, but rather outside of it. The legal baggage has nothing to do with it because, while Lego owns the Bionicle IP, they also specifically put Greg in charge of canon. Greg is the author, and that is where the matter ends. Don’t overthink it, just ignore canon if you want to.

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That’s what I did bring up there couple of times. We don’t need to do “canon contest”, it might just be “canon-themed” and that also would fix like 99% problems for people

but the vocal 1% who read Biosector01 as bedtime story would be vehemently against it and we can’t have that.

Cancel BioSector then

…even those he posted on BZP :wink: ?
There is no canon but the one we create ourselves, and let’s end there.

Except then there’d be no point and most of the community wouldn’t care. The only reason so many people got involved when they got wind of a CANON contest is because of that canonicity. Otherwise, it’s just some contest held by some guys and there’s nothing at stake unless winners get cash prizes.

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this is just a false statement

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I can’t say sure to that.

Community DOES care about contests in sake of contests, r/Bionicle discord does those all the time

I can.

@TTheLus those contests exist and so do these. no reason for either of them to stop

Edited for Double Post- Prentice1215

I am afraid your deep founded enthusiasm to support these contests as they are has lead you to… double post.

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No, it is not. For something to be canon, it needs to be approved by the IP holder, that being Lego itself.
Lego doesn’t care about Bionicles, ergo doesn’t approve (or disapprove) the canonicity of anything created on these here forums meaning that it is only canon in so far you want to believe it to be canon.
Pouks could be beige-light-brown-white with metallic purple armor for all we know.

I’m in that server, and they’re not nearly on the scale of what TTV is doing. A dozen-ish people at a time make a MOC, a winner is elected by like 30 voters, and the admins announce the winner, then we all move on. The community at large is not involved and may not even notice these contests.

…because 99% of people stop caring.

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Just remove canon flair and 99% of people stop having problems with it

that seems to defeat the point of the contests

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Those are already pretty pointless from most perspectives, and harmful from others

fairly certain a lot of the people in the wanting the contests to end camp are more anti the management of the contests than the fact that they are rooted in deciding canon

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That is a problem too, and that also does bug me

And the majority votership who started these contests clearly holds a different perspective in which they are not. Everything is pointless from some perspective; your nihilism is not a reason for us not to do something.

Which are outright wrong because these contests, at least if run more smoothly, do no harm except to those who allow themselves to be harmed.

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well then that is the argument you should try and make. you can tell from previous polling that a vast majority of people do like the idea of canon contests, even if they dont like the execution of them

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