100% yes. Again, the point is to have coherent unified look between all six Toa because they are a team. And I value this more than anything in regards to this canon contest.
Isn’t the rule that the earliest answer counts?
But Toa Hagah are a team. If the final task was to draw four characters in the style of 2005 comics, it wouldn’t be necessary.
Not necessairily, Greg has stated he reserves the right to change his mind on things. Like I said prior, I think the only proper resolution would be to have Greg re-adress it. I think it mainly applies to the LMB-onwards era.
Hot take: Norik should be mandated but not Iruini. After all, Iruini wasn’t always part of the team.
Serious answer: I feel Norik and Iruini should be encouraged but not required, but it could go either way with little impact. I imagine that even if they aren’t required… 90% of entries will draw them, and people will be much more inclined to vote for entries that include them. So in the end, it will almost certainly make little difference (I’ll be surprised if any entry in the top six doesn’t include them)
Plus, I really want to see if someone draws Norik and not Iruini. 
There is a difference between “I don’t remember answering this question” and “I changed my mind”.
Finally sat down and read this, and it seems to me like a very reasonable set of rules. Well done! I think running free-for-all MOC/art contests plus a final art contest is a good compromise between making the contest accessible to people and ensuring consistency of the final product.
There’s only one big question I have after reading the rules – if custom mask designs win, are we going to assign powers to those mask shapes? Although it’s technically outside the scope of defining the look of the Toa Hagah, introducing a new mask shape into canon is a big deal in any event. I imagine people (including me) will be curious what powers those mask shapes are supposed to represent normally, and I think it makes sense to make that decision part of this contest while it’s still fresh on all of our minds and Greg is willing to canonize it.
No, they absolutely do not. In fact, they completely undermine the mandate. Yes, they are phenomenal MOCs, but with the amount of detail/greebling (not just on the torso, but overall), it again begs the question, what is a Metru build in the context of the Hagah (which is a horse beyond beaten dead, and yet here we are). Entries like this are exactly why @Kini_Hawkeye and I brought up WholesomeGadunka’s Nenon in the first topic. When it was discussed on the Nak & Jay episode, it was pointed out that Nenon doesn’t use the same limb construction or the Metru hip piece, and so would be disqualified for that at least under the current ruleset. But Arceane’s MOCs are a good representation of the same point under the context of the Hagah. I’m not at all suggesting they should be banned. I’m saying that there’s practically no difference between a build like those and an actual custom build like mine, just that they’re varying degrees of the same thing and should both be considered a “Metru build”. I would even say my Kualus offers more cohesion with Norik and Iruini over Arceane’s MOCs in certain areas, namely the actual heart lights, fingers, lower leg armor (though not metallic), or multi-piece spears, while my build’s torso is entirely custom. All I want is consistency, and allowing this while banning my custom build is anything but. I understand that such details are difficult to regulate with a ruleset, so the line as to be drawn somewhere, but I don’t see why it has to be drawn where it currently is, and I’ve already offered the adequate idea of mandating torso dimensions as to account for completely egregious custom builds (i.e. something more like an Inika build for example).
And before anyone makes this point, no, it is not inconsistent or hypocritical of me to want consistency from TTV, while also arguing for custom builds which aren’t strictly consistent with Norik and Iruini’s use of the actual torso pieces. As I pointed out already (which seems to have gone largely unnoticed), inconsistencies already exist in canon designs that I have no control over. Unfortunate, yes, but its existence opens the possibility of builds that are not the Metru construction to be under the umbrella of “Metru build”. So even then, I want consistency in those inconsistencies.
One of the points you made against me in the first topic was showing several examples of creative MOCs using the Metru build. I then pointed out that they have major differences that would conflict with Norik and Iruini’s aesthetic, one of which was metallic armor on the lower legs. You replied that that wouldn’t be regulated in the rules. Well, now that the rules have been posted:
All I want is three things: consistency, consistency, consistency.
Did I mention consistency yet?
Really glad to hear that you guys reached out to Greg to clarify what he meant. Definitely the best way to settle this debate; interested to hear what he has to say on the matter.
By the way, @Mesonak, did you adress the idea to prohibit using gold armour in Gaaki and Kualus to avoid confusion with Psionics and Light? As this is a community contest we have the ability to maintain consistency that set designers didn’t necessarily care about.
We have the ability to do so, but not a canon reason.
This is a very good point. The rules go so far as to match the exact posing and weapon position of the entry photo, yet also allow vastly different levels of detail.
I can understand the use of slightly more complex armour techniques (as long as the colour blocking remains the same), but the MOCs in question add additional armour where the original Hagah had none, and in Gaaki’s case, the additional armour doesn’t even match the base colour.
And that’s not even touching the hands.
Personally, I think that the Hagah in question actually should be allowed, but that doesn’t exactly jibe with the extreme level of control that the rules are laying down elsewhere.
(At the end of the day, I’m also fine with the more restrictive rules, but they have to be consistent.)
Nothing. I’d be all for that. “Enough time” can be a subjective term, though, and the issue may still arise.
I think in any situation a group artwork should take a fair bit of time, regardless of which side of the coin things land on.
Just make it 50% longer than originally planned.
Canon reason is that blue+gold and white+gold are accociated with Toa of Pcionics and Light.
Where was it ever specified that the Hagah don’t match colours with other elements?
True, but I’ve actually heard the argument that consistency should be deliberately broken in order to be consistent with the other two Hagah.
I’m not saying I entirely agree with that, but it’s a point at least worth mentioning.
For Gaaki, I’ve said before that I would argue that she should have silver armor. Not because of confusion with other elements (I’ve see good arguments on why that point doesn’t matter that much), but based on the fact that she as a Rahaga has a silver Rhotuka spinner, just as Rahaga Iruini has a gold spinner and Toa Hagah Iruini has gold armor. Since the rest of the Rahaga do not have metallic spinners, it is ambiguous for them.
But that doesn’t mean it can’t happen. It’s not any different to Bomonga using gunmetal (Magnetism) or Bomonga/Kualus using silver (per Nuparu and Matoro Mahri), or Gaaki/Kualus using metallic blue, as that surely isn’t unreasonable for a natural color for those tribes… It’s a rabbit-hole we don’t need to go down.
Bomonga has a silver Rhotuka.
I feel like this measure is kind of ridiculous as well; It’s not a consistent baseline. Norik didn’t have a silver one, and it doesn’t line up with Pouks/Kualus either.
Actually, it’s a bit complicated. According to BS01, most of the sets did come with a silver spinner, but some came with a dark grey one, and the box art depicts a black one.
Right, as I said, “since the rest of the Rahaga do not have metallic spinners, it is ambiguous for them.” From what we’re given, there are two options for spinner colors: their primary color, or their armor color.
And sure, it probably is a bit much to actually put it into the rules, but compared to what is currently being mandated, I don’t think it’s much more of a stretch.
Or it’s making a connection where isn’t one.
It’s fine to use for MOCs entered, but it definitely shouldn’t be mandated by any means.
See, given this ambiguity alone I don’t think it’s a good metric, even disregarding the other points that have been raised.
Aragorn’s pants.
It doesn’t make sense.
My point isn’t that gold isn’t a part of their color scheme. Point is that blue+gold and white+gold are 100% of Pcionics and Light color schemes.